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Old March 8th, 2010, 06:59 PM   #1
 
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Fixed sight SS 4" full lug GP100?

Does Ruger still currently make the 4" full lug .357 fixed sight SS GP100?

I saw one for sale "used but new unfired", had the "new" caliber stamp, ".357 Magnum" not ".357 Magnum Cal." which puts it about post 2005 or so production, and it had Hogue grips. Sold as NIB, was wondering if Ruger still made these. I couldn't get a serial number to date the production.

I would really like one of these to go with my half lug fixed sight 4", just wanted to know if I had to track one down used or if it was something I could have a dealer order from Ruger as a new production gun.



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Old March 8th, 2010, 10:15 PM   #2
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I didn't know ruger ever made a 4" with fixed sights. I thought they only have fixed sighted 3"s and adjustable sighted 4"s
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Fixed sight 4"

I recently bought this Canadian police trade in, and also have a 4" fixed sight full lug, blue chambered in .38 Special but the pic of mine comes out too small. Apparently Ruger made a "run" of the blue full lug 4" fixed sights chambered only in .38 as a contract for homeland security contract guards, and they were hardly if ever used and are being sold off as trade-ins. My .38 fixed sight 4" is nearly new mechanically, shows no evidence of ever being field stripped and only has a hint of holster wear. I got it more just to "have" than as a shooter and would like to get another one of these too. I am just getting more into stainless guns as shooters, and the 4" fixed sight .357's in SS look like something I also "need". I have a few adjustable sight GP's but much prefer my revolvers with 4" tubes and fixed sights. I'm probably one of the few Ruger DA fans out there that actually seeks out .38 Special chambered GP's and Sixes. I have one of each of these so far, a .38 Speed Six and the GP. To me there's no real difference, I just shoot way more .38 than .357 at the range, and keep my GP's loaded with +P .38 for home defense and concealed carry, so to me it's neat to have them actually chambered for and marked ".38 Special Cal"




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Not meaning to change the subject, but I am coveting that DAO SS half lug. Just what I have been looking for!
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Canadians

These were easily found a few years back and still are, one will turn up on GB or AA fairly frequently. I guess a large group of these got imported through Century and now they kind of spread out to the secondary market.I got mine for just over $400 and it's in basically "carried but hardly fired" condition.

I just had a "need" for a full size 4" "duty gun" in DAO, just thought it was neat because mostly the only DAO's I see are snubs, etc. It's surprising that after you get used to it, you don't miss the SA option all that much. I have a habit of shooting all my DA revolvers in SA at the range, I'm trying to improve my skills shooting these DA, and the DAO guns are great because it removes the option to thumb that hammer back. I often find that when I'm at the range and I'm shooting revolvers, and I'm suckin' that day on DA I often fall back to my "safety net" and start thumbing hammers back. I can drive tacks with SA but I usually spray the paper in DA.

I have seen NIB DAO 4" full lug SS adjustable sight GP's.......police or security over-runs? I have up to now never saw a NIB current production full-lug 4", adjustable no less, in DAO. I like "different" Rugers, especially GP's, maybe some day I will pick up a used 6" GP and drop a DAO hammer in it, just for some "variation".
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For a number of years, Ruger made fixed-sight GP100 in several 4" configurations; blued, stainless, full-lug, half-lug, .357 Magnum, and .38 Special. Later in the GP100 production cycle, the options became thinned out regarding the fixed-sight GP100 options. In the latter stages, the 4" fixed-sight was only available in the .38 Special incarnation, and several years ago was totally (unfortunately) phased out; the only currently available fixed-sight GP100 is the 3" stainless steel varient (regrettably only with the disproportionately large {for a 3" gun} Hogue rubber grip-but the original smaller Ruger grips are available from Ruger as an aftermarket option.

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Nice

Great info, thank you!

I have yet to see a blued or stainless full lug fixed sight 4" in .357, only the .38 chambering. I have seen the half lug (obviously since I own one!) in .357.

The latest fixed sight SS 4" full lug .38 I saw was a 174 prefix 2004 production, so they are still out there in basically NIB status. I have passed on a few since I already have the blued flavor of the FL, FS 4" .38.

I have seen the new SS 3" GP's, with that Hogue it looks like someone took a snubnose revolver and glued a melted tire to it. I can't imagine why Ruger does not at least put Pachmayr Compacs on these, like they did with the later Speed Sixes. People obviously buy the 3" guns for CC, and yet they still put ridiculous Hogue target grips on them.
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I own a SS 4" fixed sight full lug. I carried it as my LEO duty gun for about 8 years before going to a Glock 22. It has a wonderful trigger courtesy of Ron Power.
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Cool!

Is it a .38 or a .357? Would love to see a pic of it, always like to see pics of a nice LEO Ruger!

I was recently offered a fixed sight, SS full lug 4" in .38 for $600, NIB. The guy selling it seemed to be hoping for a Ruger "collector" to go for it because he said they were "rare", and it was NIB. Seemed high to me so I didn't go for it, also at the time I had just gotten a hardly used example of the same thing in blue. $600 seemed too high to me to obtain a "double" of something I have already have, and also just a full lug version of what I have in half lug, that I got for $200 less in exc. condition. If it were a .357 I would have thought harder about it.

I have been narrowing my buys down to specific stuff, now that I have several "shooter" Six and GP revolvers. I would like a very early 170 prefix GP from the late 80's, to go along with my last year production 1988 Security Six. Kind of a "transition" GP that was made while the Six was being phased out.
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It's .357 caliber. My daughter has it in another state presently so I can't take a pic. I got it for $280 in 1995, including a trigger job that probably would cost $100-plus. A deal like this come along very rarely.
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In Italy, in 2003, were imported some fixed sights GP100, blued and SS, 4" barrel, full lug, .357 mag cal. Those GPs had the compact grip that were mounted on the 3" fixed sights before they were replaced with the Hogue.
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.357's

I like the .38 Special Six and GP's, they are often easier to get "deals" on because most buyers of used Rugers want adjustable sight .357's.

I shoot a lot of .38, but not a whole lot of .357, and I love the .38 guns because then I don't have to worry about the burn ring buildup in the chambers. It's nothing some Hoppe's bench rest and a nylon brush won't fix, but it's still just neat, to me anyway, to have a massive tank of a revolver like a GP chambered and marked for .38.

I read a post a while back from a guy who bought a used .38 Service Six and wanted to have the chambers reamed to take .357 and I was like "NOOOO!"
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This is a picture I've found on the Internet .
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Nice

Now THAT is a nice piece, definitely something I would buy right now if it was under $600. I basically have the exact same thing, just chambered in .38, but being a Ruger "accumulator" I would love one in .357.

Part of the reason why I love GP's is their pure "all business" style, and I vastly prefer the look and feel of the fixed sight guns. The adjustable sight gives the frame that "blocky" look that is cool too, but like the one above, it's everything you need in a no-nonsense service gun, and nothing you don't. I haven't met a fixed sight Ruger yet that I can't put my rounds where I want them at up to 50 yards, once I figure out what load it's regulated for, so up to this point I see adjustable sights as great for a target revolver, but not needed on a "working" gun. For handgun hunting I can see having the adjustable sight, for fine tuning a particular load, but I love duty revolvers, and if I can put most of my rounds on a silhouette at 100 yards with a fixed sight, that's about all I can ask of it. If you find yourself shooting at more than 100 yards in a defensive situation, then you better go get a rifle!

I used to shun anything in stainless, but since I got into Ruger DA's and newer S&W's I kind of did a 180 and now I pretty much only buy stainless guns......but part of me will always have a weakness for polished blue steel!

I know this is a Ruger forum, but guns like the one I got below keep my love for the blue alive.

The GP100 pic in nick's post is basically the Ruger "version" of this S&W 581 .357. Like this S&W I assume Ruger made these to be the "ultimate" police service revolver. Fixed sight, 4" barrel, .357, doesn't get much better than that for a LEO revolver IMO. I would love to have a gun like that Ruger to go with my 581. In my avatar I have basically the same thing as the above pic, but with an inch less of barrel. That inch does make a world of difference in the handling and feel of a GP!


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Your 581 is surely a nice gun...When Smiths were still Smiths...
I absolutely agree with your opinions about fixed sights revolvers: they are "all business", snag-free and are more instinctive with their lower line of sight...However I think that adjustable sights revolvers can have some advantages too, also for a service gun : you can adjust elevation for every kind of load, from .38 WC to the hottiest and haevier .357 magnum loads, you can easily put some tritium sights on the gun and you can adjust the windage if it isn't right from the factory...I've had two fixed sights Rugers revolvers: an SP101 and a SS 3" barrel GP100 and they were shooting perfectly POA, but, about two weeks ago, I've replaced my S&W 640/1 for a new 2 1/4" SP101, and, unfortunately, the gun shoots about 1" on the right at 10 yards ...I'm planning on filing the rear sight a little...

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