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Old February 21st, 2010, 05:13 AM   #1
 
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Largest Recoil Load in 357 Magnum

What is the heaviest hitting, most slamming recoil 357 ammunition out there. In particularly in regards to the Ruger GP100 SS 6".



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I guess if someone needed a testosterone boost, the Buffalo Bore stuff could suffice.
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Actually, you could cook up a handload using something like a 200-grain bullet and a pound or so of Bullseye that would really get your attention.

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Actually I am please with both answers. Espesially the testosterone boost and the handload cooking, but, I should have clarified that I really meant Factory off the shelf rounds. In my mind, I'm trying to set the bar at both ends. A High and Low for the 357 Magnum.
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Heaviest recoiling are going to be the heavy 180-200gr cast loads from the botique ammomakers like Buffalo Bore and Doubletap.But for wow factor (esp. at an indoor range) I have a 125gr load using ww296 that makes 3 foot flame balls.
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Heaviest recoiling are going to be the heavy 180-200gr cast loads from the botique ammomakers like Buffalo Bore and Doubletap.But for wow factor (esp. at an indoor range) I have a 125gr load using ww296 that makes 3 foot flame balls.
Well, by all means. Please share this tidbit with the rest of the class, Oh great lord fireball.

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I can say that the 180gr BB out of my SP 101 is a handfull
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I have used a fair amount of .357 over the past 50 years. The most powerful factory .357 I have ever used is the 180 Buffalo Bore. I have chronograped it in some of my guns. It runs 1400+ FPS in three 4" S&W 686s and in my 5" model 27. It chronographes 1500+ FPS in my 5.5" stainless Bisley.

The 180 BB ammo extracts easily and primers appear normal, but I don't even want to try it in a J frame Smith or SP101. My hat is off to you Amigo Will.
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Buffalo Bore Ammunition | Strictly Big Bore - Strictly Business
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Well, by all means. Please share this tidbit with the rest of the class, Oh great lord fireball.
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I use 20.5 gr of 296 with Remington bulk 125gr JSP and Winchester SPM primers
I chronoed this load at 2150fps from my Marlin 1894
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I use 20.5 gr of 296 with Remington bulk 125gr JSP and Winchester SPM primers
I chronoed this load at 2150fps from my Marlin 1894
WoW,

That must be a massive recoil. No? If it'll go 2150fps, have you measured the actual muzzle energy as in foot pounds? Must be pretty close to say, 750-800? I'll have to try that in my GP100-6", after I do some calculations on my computer first of course. But I know the GP100 is pretty damn stout, and could handle this load.

If I just want to screw around, I use 5.5gr of HP38 or Win231 (same powder) coupled with a 125gr TC/FP Lead Bullet. With a CCI Magnum Primer. This is an actual load given by Hodgdon.

If I want to get somewhat serious, I upgrade to 6.8gr of Universal, coupled with the same 125gr TC/FP Lead bullet and a CCI Magnum Primer. The velocity jumps to 1450-1480 through my GP100-6" And the pressure jumps to 33,000-33,200. Damn good load.

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That must be a massive recoil. No? If it'll go 2150fps, have you measured the actual muzzle energy as in foot pounds? Must be pretty close to say, 750-800?
Recoil is not that bad from my 4" GP however I'm kind of an old recoil junkie I still hav a couple 44 and 357 loads that shake your boots a little. Now that I'm older they make up a very small % of rounds sent down range.

as to energy from the rifle it's actually about 1280 ft lbs.
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Recoil is not that bad from my 4" GP however I'm kind of an old recoil junkie I still hav a couple 44 and 357 loads that shake your boots a little. Now that I'm older they make up a very small % of rounds sent down range.

as to energy from the rifle it's actually about 1280 ft lbs.
1280, nice. Me likey. I miss the old days when bullets had more juice to let loose. I think many bullets today have lost that true "punch." Years ago, I used to fire Federal 125gr factory loads that you would swear was a stick of dynamite going off. We used to call them, "The Crowd Pleaser." Now, that .357 seems a might bit like a small party favor. I can personally remember using what they used to call "cop killers" on engine blocks, and trust me, they did go through a V8 big block. We took a few down to a friends junk yard where he wanted to witness for himself whether it was true or not. He found out, it was true.
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A (safe) full load with a 125 gr bullet won't generate intolerable recoil in a 6" GP100.
A full house 180 gr bulleted load in a S&W snubbie or a SP101 can ruin most of the nerves in your wrist in a few rounds, if that's what you are looking to do.

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