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Old November 23rd, 2009, 06:06 PM   #1
 
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Ruger GP100 versus Glock 17 match gun durability

For a match gun that would be fired frequently, any thoughts on the long term durability of a GP100 versus Glock 17? Obviously very different platforms, but looking to get feedback on which would hold up to use with least problems in the long haul. I've owned a Glock 22 and still have a GP (this one wouldn't be used) and like both. Determining factor would be which would be least likely to break or require repairs for extended firing. Thanks.



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For a match gun that would be fired frequently, any thoughts on the long term durability of a GP100 versus Glock 17? Obviously very different platforms, but looking to get feedback on which would hold up to use with least problems in the long haul. I've owned a Glock 22 and still have a GP (this one wouldn't be used) and like both. Determining factor would be which would be least likely to break or require repairs for extended firing. Thanks.
A Monkey can shoot a glock 17. It takes a man to shoot a GP.

I'm willing to bet you will do better and win more matches with the Glock.
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Old November 23rd, 2009, 06:32 PM   #3
 
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What type of matches are you competing in? Take the GP100 Grab it by the barrel with your trigger finger in the trigger guard. Beat the crap out of the Glock frame. I bet the GP100 will come out on top. Glock makes a great gun. I carry a Glock30 most of the time and a Ruger SP101 at other times. The GP100 is a solid platform and for competition you can make custom loads that will maximize the accuracy of your GP100. The GP100 is built like a tank and can take tens of thousands of rounds through it.
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Well, that's gonna be a toss-up. As much as some people don't like Glocks, the 9mm versions are hell-for-durable. Many accounts of 50,000, 60,000, even up to 250,000 rds (although I think that Chuck Taylor's G17 is even past that, now) through the various 9mm Glocks without significant parts breakage. Even if you do break something, Glock will get you fixed right up with parts. If they won't do it, then there are many aftermarket places that sell new Glock-branded parts and the parts are pretty cheap.

Durability for the GP100 would likely be about the same as the G17. In fact (although I may be burned at the stake for saying it), the G17 may edge out the GP100 for durability, as long as both were properly cared for and not outright abused. I think you'd do fine with either, although the GP would likely be more accurate. I do know that, properly cared for, either will last you a LONG time, even shooting competitively.

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I have both, and they're both excellent guns. I would suggest that you differentiate between "durability" and "reliability," particularly in the venues that you'll be shooting in. Although I don't particularly advise it, Glocks are capable of literally shooting thousands of rounds without cleaning, without hiccups. I think that you're courting problems if you shoot more than 200 rounds out of a revolver without cleaning, generally speaking. Powder residue blow-back tends to gum up the works in relatively short order in extended revolver shooting, particularly regarding the crane/cylinder and the extractor/ejector. Pistols (particularly Glocks) are designed for protracted shooting with little lubrication/maintenance-partially because there's little metal-on-metal bearing areas, and because residue is shunted more efficiently away from the operating components.

However, with proper maintanence and lubrication, between the two guns I think that you'd likely find "durability" to be a wash. Both are over-built guns, with an excellent record of overall reliability. If pushed hard to choose between the two, I'd go with the Glock 17, as it's accrued a well-earned reputation of being pretty much the "gold standard" of operational durability and reliability regarding fielded 9mm combat pistols, and they are very easy not only to field-strip, but also to detail-strip and replace parts as necessary.

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Cor-Bon uses real firearms to chrono their facotry loads.

To test their .38 Special and .357 Magnum rounds they used to use a 4" barrel KGP-100.

They retired it in 2005 with over 200,000* rounds through it and even then it still grouped 2" at 25 yds (six shots from a Ransom Rest).

*They also used a G-17 to test their 9x19 rounds. They had to replace the frame at ~150,000 rounds. The G-17 was still going strong at 400,000 rounds.

Looks like you cannot go wrong with either choice.
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Once you learn to reload a revolver fast with speedloaders you got it all. Enough said.
Use 38s in the GP100 and you will also feel no recoil (as in almost none).
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It depends on the type of match, of course. I'm assuming you want something that competes in its own class, and you don't ever expect a GP-100 to fire two cylinders in the time you can fire one magazine from a Glock. Or is this strictly for accuracy?
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I own a scoped 6" sst GP100 and a Glock 19. The scoped Ruger, off the bench, will consistanly shoot 5 shot 3" groups at 100 meters with the right hand loads. Try that with any model Glock. They both have their rightfull place in what they were designed to do.
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Thanks to all. Sounds like it would be a wash...may just try to get ne of each.
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