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Old June 9th, 2015, 05:16 AM   #1
 
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GP100 vs GP100 Match Champion Internals

First off, I appologize if this has been posted by others before. I don't check this site very often.

I quit carrying the SP101 last year when I bought my Berretta Nano. The SP101 is a great gun, but I don't find it comfortable to conceal well.

I've decided that I want to sell the SP101 and pick up a 4" GP100 for nightstand/range use. The fixed sights on the Match Champion are the #1 feature that would pull me in, but is it really worth the premium for an extremely casual shooter? Are the internals any different from those of a standard 4" GP100?



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I should not reply, because I don't know about the internals, but I handled a Match champion and really liked it, but if it was casual use I think I would go with the 3" Wiley Clapp, or a plain fixed sight 3". I just traded for a 3" Adjustable sight 38 special and love it.
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The MC has hammer & trigger shims, and a slight degree of slicking internally.
You decide whether that's worth the price to you.
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Love mine. It's extremely crisp and the small things done to it make it worth it to me.
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I'm a casual shooter and I buy many of my Rugers "just because"......I don't "need" a Match Champion but I want one, the fixed sights are different and I think they're neat.

I tried trigger and hammer shims, they worked well but I just didn't like them. If I bought a MC I would probably take them out.

I would assume a bit more care is taken in the fitting of the MC's, given they're intended use as match/gun game revolvers and I would think to compete with the S&W 686 PC revolvers.

I really do think we'll see a 7-shot GP100, maybe a "Match Champion x7" or some such, the pressure of the 686+ and even the 7-shot Taurus 66 is just too strong, for Ruger to resist the market of "hi cap" revolvers. They've already tested the waters with the Single 10, Single 9, and the 7-shot .327 GP100.
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What about a 8 shot 357mag on a Redhawk frame? The Alaskan frame would be pretty nice.
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I just watched "Blood Work" with Clint last night, he has one of those S&W N-frame 8-shot .357 snubbies, the PC guns in that film.

I thought, "I wish Ruger would make an 8-shot .357 Alaskan or snub Redhawk" but who knows, I never thought I would see a 4" .327 SP101 either......

It would go either way, either Ruger would sell boatloads of them or the sales would stagnate like the original .357 Redhawk. I think Ruger is still gun shy with the lack of sales of the .357 RH, to bring out another large frame .357.
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Yea, but the RH frame is a pretty big gun for a 6-shot 357. An 8-shot 357 is a bit different, Especially if you could be S&Ws price.
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I guess this is going off track on this thread but I always had the idea you could put together a 7 shot GP100 by starting with the 7 shot 327 version, rechambering the cylinder to 357 Magnum and swapping the barrel off another GP100 chambered in 357. Or if you could find a GP100 barrel someplace. But then they stopped making the 327 version of the GP100 and the prices went stoopid on them so that killed that idea. Even at the old price of a 327 GP100 it would still be a lot of money and effort just to have a 7 shot GP100. But still - it would be pretty cool to have one.....
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I honestly think an 8-shot .357 Alaskan wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility, Ruger is really pushing the envelope with things they would never do 10-20 years ago.

I am reading "Ruger and his Guns" and it was written while Bill was still alive. He is quoted in the book as saying "We will never make a compact auto pistol", I guess things change lol

I have a .357 Redhawk and that thing is basically a revolving hand-carbine, I had put Pachmayrs on it just to be able to hold the weight of it up for long periods of time, and I'm no weak guy lol

That extra meat in the bore and the cylinder adds up to some weight, this is pretty much a bench rest revolver.

I bought it used, scratched up and beat, looked like someone had a no-drill scope mount on it and also dropped it a few times. For the price I was all over it, I wondered who the heck was carrying this beast to put so much handling wear on it.

I really, really want to have Bowen's turn it into an Alpine.......I think Bowen is one of the few master revolversmiths (artists) that actually increase the value of everything they touch. The .357 Redhawk is a collectible, but if he can turn my beater into this gem, it will be a work of art.
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I have the 4" standard GP and like the adjustable sights. Fixed sights for me have always been hit or miss (pun intended ).

And if you don't like the sights on the standard, they can be easily swapped out. There are plenty of aftermarket sights for the front (quick release) and the adjustable rear.
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Man you guys go way off track from what the OP was asking all this crap with 7&8 shot .357's then go buy a S&W!!! Now for me the price on a MC vs a standard Stainless Steel Ruger GP100.........good hell buy a standard adjustable sight Stainless Steel Ruger GP100!!! Clean up & smooth the action trigger pull etc then you have a really nice revolver that's much cheaper then a Ruger GP100 MC!!!
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To me it's a non-issue because I prefer the standard GP100 full lugged bbl. I think most people who purchase the Match do so because of the bbl profile, fixed sights etc. and not because of a "tuned" action. If the fixed sights and bbl profile of the Match revolver are what you really want, then the extra cost would be worth it, IMO. I think the only difference in the action between the two is the shimmed trigger and hammer, and that's not a big issue either way.
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Definite yes on the full lug barrel. Better balance in my mind. Save the money and get a trigger job, etc..
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I guess this is going off track on this thread but I always had the idea you could put together a 7 shot GP100 by starting with the 7 shot 327 version, rechambering the cylinder to 357 Magnum and swapping the barrel off another GP100 chambered in 357. Or if you could find a GP100 barrel someplace. But then they stopped making the 327 version of the GP100 and the prices went stoopid on them so that killed that idea. Even at the old price of a 327 GP100 it would still be a lot of money and effort just to have a 7 shot GP100. But still - it would be pretty cool to have one.....
I like how you think. Another option would be to rebore the existing barrel for .357. Another alternative would be to have Reeder or Clements make up a 7 shot cylinder for a .357 and get a pawl for the .327. It should be doable as I believe the GP cylinder is 1.55" dia. vs. 1.557" for a 686+. Only thing I think that would hold it up is if the bore center to cylinder axis distance differs much between the two.
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