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Old May 2nd, 2015, 04:04 AM   #1
 
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New LCR 9mm Not Extracting Rounds

Took my new LCR 9mm to the range yesterday. During the course of my shooting, several times the shells with a moon clip would not extract. I had to pry them out.

Since this gun was purchased with the intent to use it as my carry gun, this is obviously a potentially dangerous problem. However, Most of the time, the shells extracted with no problem.

Do you think this was an aberration, and will resolve itself with more more range time, or is it a defect in the gun, requiring me to contact Ruger and get the gun back to them? Or could it be an ammo issue because I am assuming that the problem was caused by one or more of the shells expanding in the cylinder, causing the failure to extract?

Advice and others experience will be much appreciated.



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What ammo?
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I'd suspect the ammo first. I've had various issues with ammo in the past doing the exact same thing in my 9mm and 12g. Switching the ammo cleared the problem immediately. FWIW, the ammo I had problems with were aluminum cased.

What ammo are you using?
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Blazer Brass 124gr. FMJ and Sellier & Bellot 115gr. FMJ, and Federal Premium 124gr. HST. Frankly don't remember which I was using when it happened.

What ammo are you using?
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Generally I use nothing but standard Winchester White Box stuff. I've had issues with aluminum cased ammo from Federal in the past but never any from Brass cased ammo. I find the Blazer to be slightly more dirty than others but it ran fine in my 9.

I'd be interested to know if it was happening with more than one brand of ammo, or if it was the same ones that caused the problem.
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I don't see how the problem you describe could be a revolver problem.
It is clearly an ammunition problem in my mind.

Follow this guide and use high quality SD ammunition for carrying to avoid problems.
Consolidated List of Boberg Compatible 9mm Ammunition - Boberg Arms | XR9-S | Power. Performance. Prestige.

I use LAX 9mm reloads for the range
Hornady Critical Duty 9mm Luger+P 135 gr Flexlock for carry.

There is other good ammo as well.
My LCR9 is my EDC.
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Diagnosis steps

I had a similar experience. Ruger replaced the extraction star and bushing. I've yet to test the results. I had one sticky chamber and don't think the extractor was at fault, but they're the Pros.

First, clean under the extraction star carefully; I had tiny metal machining chips that twisted the star a bit and made extraction difficult.

Clean the cylinder bores thoroughly.

Load it up without the moon clip. Try extraction over several cylinders after firing and note if it's one chamber sticking consistantly.

If it's one chamber, mark it and send the revolver to Ruger service with a clear explaination if what you discovered.

If the sticking seems random, test the ammunition and eliminate the offending brand from use.
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Thanks folks. much appreciate the responses. I will try what Homesteader suggested next time at the range. Very good idea about loading without the moon clips to see if I can determine whether it is only one of the chambers which is sticking.

I did clean it pretty thoroughly before using it the first time so I don't think that is the issue.

Hopefully, it will turn out to be an ammo issue, not a problem with the gun itself.

I also just discovered that the cylinder release screw started to back out.. What size tool do I need to screw it back in with some blue locktite?
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My LCR 9mm required a trip back to Ruger to fix the extractor star. It was loose and would rotate out of position.

Now it's fine.

With Winchester FMJ flat point 147 gr ammo, the fired case just fall out.
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Communicate your problems with Ruger customer service. Follow their advice and if the issue persists, they will handle it.
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I would first try as suggested experiment with different ammo & keep it clean. This could very well fix your problem if it still exists then yes contact Ruger and send it back good luck to you & if I haven't said this Welcome to the Ruger Forum from Utah.
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Called Ruger CS and told them my issues, cylinder release screw backed out and shells getting stuck and not extracting.

Rep I spoke with told me that the screw was set by the factory to a specific torque and suggested I not try to screw it back in myself because I risked stripping the threads, that he would e-mail me a prepaid mailing label and to send the revolver in.

He said to include a note setting forth that issue and the issue of the shells not extracting and they would take care of both.

Gun was sent back today.
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If you have any problems with the firearm when it comes back from Ruger you might consider trying to get them to replace it with a 38+P or a 357 mag. A few folks on this forum have done that when they could not get the issues of the 9mm resolved. The LCR9 appears to be very problematic from what I see on this forum. I have had no issues with my wife's 38+P. However I have only fired about 150 rounds through it counting the 30 she has fired.
I do understand the possible advantages of the 9 mm. The ammo is cheaper and more available than the others. I am not convinced the issues with extraction, shaving, and crimp jump that keep showing up here are worth taking a chance on the 9.
Just my opinion.
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In my mind, if a person wants to shoot 9mm, get a pistol that's designed for that cartridge. No need for moon clips or any problem areas trying to fit a cartridge to a platform it wasn't designed for.

I just compared Remington Golden Saber ammo, a common self defense ammo, for 9mm & 38 Special. The 9 was $0.46 per round while the 38 was $0.438 per round.

I'd send it back and see if they can give me a 38 or 357 model as a replacement.

But that's just my opinion. I hope you get it resolved to your satisfaction!

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Interesting advice about trying to get Ruger to switch out the 9mm for a .38. I had a .38sp. +P, which was perfect. But, since I go to the range frequently and shoot semi-autos in 9mm, I decided the 9mm LCR would let me use just one type of ammo, and I found the .38 ammo almost double in price over the 9mm ammo, so I traded the .38+P LCR for the 9mm LCR.

On hindsight, looks like I made a poor decision. I will see what happens when I get the gun back. If problems persist, I will probably try to get Ruger to replace it with a 38.

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