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Old February 3rd, 2009, 01:36 PM   #1
 
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Ammo for my sp101

Does anyone have any experience firing the Winchester 110 gr. low recoil .357 JHP rounds in their SP101? I have been reading some about them but haven't tried a box yet. In doing some cursory looking, they seem to be hard to get... everything is back-ordered. Are they really low recoil, maybe similar to a 38 sp? The reason I'd like to know is for my wife's usage for home defense. 38sp is a load she can handle but, supposedly, isn't a very good defense round. A .357 round handles the job nicely but is just too much for her to handle and I don't want her to be afraid to start pulling the trigger if the need ever arises. Would this Winchester round fit the bill or is there another type of load I can get that will do the job and she won't be afraid to fire?

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I would go with .38 Spl. +P for home defense. Read Iowegan's post on Preparation for Home Protection, you'll learn a lot, I know I did. It's located in the Library section of this forum, but here's the link.

http://www.rugerforum.net/showthread.php?t=7988
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I like the W/W 110's in my SP-101. I buy the white box USA brand, and have gotten very good results with them.

Some Wal-Marts have them, and occasionally they show up at Cabela's, Sportsman's Warehouse, and/or Dick's.
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I like the W/W 110's in my SP-101. I buy the white box USA brand, and have gotten very good results with them.
Please excuse my lack of knowledge but what are w/w 110's?
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I would go with .38 Spl. +P for home defense. Read Iowegan's post on Preparation for Home Protection, you'll learn a lot, I know I did. It's located in the Library section of this forum, but here's the link.

http://www.rugerforum.net/showthread.php?t=7988
Thanks for the link. I read through Iowegan's post and he has some great points to make. The only thing is, though, (and this is where I am getting confused) I have read in several places that a 38 sp. round isn't the best to have around for HD, that it doesn't have enough stopping power, not necessarily kill power. Supposedly, this is the most important factor in HD (according to some authors). Along with that is the low noise, muzzle flash, penetration issues and recoil. That's why these Winchester rounds were recommended... that they fit all the criteria. but, I'll check out the HBWC's at my local gun shop and see if they have any and try some out.

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Here's an excellent article by Stephen Camp about three Mid Range 357 Magnum loads all of which I think would be more effective than the 110 grain load:

http://hipowers-handguns.blogspot.co...mid-range.html
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Here's an excellent article by Stephen Camp about three Mid Range 357 Magnum loads all of which I think would be more effective than the 110 grain load:

http://hipowers-handguns.blogspot.co...mid-range.html
Great link! This is the type if info I was looking for. Now, my next task will be to try and find some of these mid-range loads. Seems like everything is out of stock these days.
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One important factor is the concussion from the .357 both the perp and the shooter will be disoriented by the sound of a .357 in doors with no hearing protection. Remember that first shot sound be followed by a quick second shot. NYPD used .38 Spl. for years before approving the 9mm. It is an effective round especially in +P.

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..but what are w/w 110's?..

Winchester USA brand .357 magnum loads with a 110 grain hollow point bullet.
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..but what are w/w 110's?..

Winchester USA brand .357 magnum loads with a 110 grain hollow point bullet.
Yes.

I have never tried the W/W 110's. For indoors I carry my SP-101 with the old FBI load of a 158 gr LHP in 38 Spl. A 38 Spl was the police firearm for decades so it will still get the job done.
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I got the SP101 last week, and couldn't even find any .357 ammo. But, yesterday I did. Bought a box of 20 Federal Hydashock 158 grain. Expensive, about $1.50 each!
I'm out of town on business right now, but will have to try them out this weekend.
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Thanks to everyone for your help and opinions. It seems that ammo, along with a lot of other things, gets better all the time. It seems the best thing for me is to try and find some of these various loads and try them for myself to see what will fit for me.

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I hear conflicting reports about .38 +P ammo vs. .357 shot out of a snub nose. Anyone know if there is that much difference between the two shot out of a snub? I figure the .357 will still be more powerful, but the question is how much more, and is it worth it.

That new .357 ammo article is interesting and leads me to believe that is the way to go in a sp-101, but wondering what others think in regards to .38 +P compared to it shot out of a snub.

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I did alot of research on this subject last week, Im still trying to find a bx of Cor-Bon 125gr DPX 357mag locally. Over on stopping power they did a test using a SP101. If i remember correctly it was close to 1200fps and .70 expansion. I want to fire a couple of boxes myself but its expensive at $1.80 a round. Currently i have speer SB 135gr 357mag in mine but im not all that impressed with the energy or velocity if this round.
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I bought some Buffalo bore Tatical short barrel ammo for my 3inch sp101. I havent shot it yet and wont shoot much of it as it is expensive but for home/personal protection price isnt an issue. It suppose to have less flash which would be good in house at might.
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