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This is a discussion on whats up with the plastic front sight on my super redhawk within the Ruger Double Action forums, part of the Pistol & Revolver Forum category; Yup those are basically the sights I ordered but then realized that ruger had changed the front sight so the blade is no longer interchangeable ...


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Old June 26th, 2014, 03:12 AM   #16
 
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Yup those are basically the sights I ordered but then realized that ruger had changed the front sight so the blade is no longer interchangeable like it was before it can be changed but haven't found anything aftermarket for it yet. Not sure why probably cheaper I guess.



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Old June 26th, 2014, 03:21 AM   #17
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If this is a relatively new development it may take the aftermarket sight manufacturers some time to catch up and offer replacement options. If you remove the three screws does the entire base come off the barrel and the blade drop out? That could be a design that means the visible portion of the sight has to fit through the slot in the base and might make it tough to use a light pipe. Could be a challenge.

I wonder if the older style front sight base was also held on with the same three screws and if it would be possible to swap out the base to the old style. Might be worth a call to Ruger and talk to a knowledgeable person in the parts department and see if that's an option.

(In thinking about it the old style base can't use the same three screws as they would interfere with the spring loaded plunger assembly design of the interchangeable sight. I'm guessing the old style base was silver soldered on. Maybe that's still an option - silver solder on the old style base?)

If I had your gun I would want the interchangeable front sight base too. I like easy options.

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I should call again as I called yesterday to ask why my sight was different and the guy was helpful by telling me it was a new design as my gun was built in October 2013 but didn't give a reason why or say just swap the base. I figured if I keep looking i'm sure I will find something and here we are. to answer your first question, no the blade and base are all one piece and can be removed with screws but I would love to know if the older base could be attached to my barrel or if it was permanently mounted on the barrel.
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so I found this reply in another post written by member David Bradshaw
"korak 1984.... the Redhawk was introduced (1980, entering pipeline a bit later) with the best interchangeable front sight ever put on a pistol. The Redhawk barrel begins as a drop forging, which is machined, gun drilled and broach rifled. The front sight boss is one with the barrel forging. Redhawk insert sights are secured by a hooked, spring-loaded plunger, depressed with a narrow screw driver, drift punch, or awl.

Other interchangeable front sights, such as those made by Freedom Arms and Jim Stroh of Alpha Precision, secure the blade with an Allen head screw.

Ruger incorporated the Redhawk sight on various .357 Mags and the Super Redhawk. The Super Redhawk incorporates a bar stock barrel with separate silver soldered base to take Redhawk inserts. The original Super Redhawk broach-rifled bar stock barrel was replaced with a hammer forged barrel after Ruger installed hammer forging machinery in Newport, NH. Hunter and Bisley Hunter model SBH's use the Redhawk insert sight.

The Ruger website currently shows the Super Redhawk with a screw-on front sight----same idea as for bull barrel Target Model .22 auto pistols and the certain Single-Six and silhouette Blackhawk/SBH revolvers.

To drop the Redhawk style sight from the Super Redhawk is a mistake, and should be corrected immediately. The Redhawk front sight is far too good an idea to let die"

It also seems that the base on the interchangeable front sight may be silver soldered to the barrel.
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I like mine I think it is a good idea. A lot of guns use screw on front sights easy on and easy off especially for those who are going to scope there gun that old type base had some problems from looking at some old info on the net about coming off and having to be resoldered some folks who were scoping the gun complained about the base on the end of the barrel that they didn't need. some of the distributor exclusive Supers have fiber optic screw on sights the Toklat and another 7.5 Super Redhawk I saw at Bud Gun shop had one. So they are being made by somebody just not mainstream right now. From looing at the Tolkat info it comes with a fiber optic and a brass bead sight that are screw on three screw type. I say after a while there will be plenty of after market sights available for it I think its a good Idea easier to manufacture and easy to take off the whole thing and have no sight base and put it back on if you need to easily.

That is just my thoughts
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If I can find 1 of these after market sights that would be great
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The new front is a one-piece (aside from the insert) with blade & base being all one unit.
Held on by three screws, no plunger.
The unit is long.

That Meprolight wouldn't fit.

As far as it being crap goes, I bought the optional red-insert sight from Ruger to replace the all-black one that came on my newest GP a couple years back.

I wanted a more visible front, the insert provided it, and in use it gives exactly the same sight picture as this new Super Red with its insert.

Not a fiber-optic, but far from crap.
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Hasn't really been resolved since I still have not found a replacement for the crap sight. It shoots ok just not very good for low light. Maybe Im just spoiled with all the fiber optic sites I have on my othere guns. You would think for what they cost they would come with something a little better. I absolutely love the gun though very fun to shoot
If you're interested in a fiber optic, or even Tritium replacement front sight, shoot me a PM. I've made a few tritium sights for the new style SRH front sight, wouldn't be any challenge to drop in a fiber-optic tube instead.
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From looing at the Tolkat info it comes with a fiber optic and a brass bead sight that are screw on three screw type.
That's not correct. The Toklat comes with a standard 3-screw new style black & red front sight, plus a brass bead replacement front sight, as well as a standard square notch rear sight and a V-notch rear sight. There is no fiber-optic front sight included with either of my Toklats, nor with two that buddies of mine have.

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I say after a while there will be plenty of after market sights available for it I think its a good Idea easier to manufacture and easy to take off the whole thing and have no sight base and put it back on if you need to easily.
I wouldn't agree that the front sight is easier to manufacture. The new front sight, while it LOOKS simple, has a milled mortise in the bottom of the sight base and a keyed tennon machined into the top of the barrel. From a manufacturing standpoint, the new sight has nearly the same degree of machining work compared to the old plunger style front sight.

What IS cheaper/faster, is that the new sight is simply held in place with 3 screws, rather than 1 screw and silver solder. So the skill level and processing time for installing the new sight is lower. Not to mention that it doesn't have any moving parts, as opposed to the sight insert, plunger, plunger spring, and crosspin that were included in the old design. The new sight is simply a base with a staked blade, and a mold-in plastic insert.
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before I can do that so I should be good now and will be PM'ing you about the sight
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