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Old August 7th, 2008, 05:49 PM   #1
 
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CZ full stock v. Ruger RSI Intl.

I'm looking for a .270 bolt action with a full stock. I like the balance of the mannlicher stock and the short barrel length is great for the woods out east. The flat shooting .270 is also great for the wilds of SW MT where I will be calling home for a couple of years beginning in spring '09.

I've seen reviews of both the CZ and Ruger but have never seen any side-by-side comparisons of the two rifles. Both models are comparably priced and are mechanically sound according to "reviews." The CZ gets the nod for aesthetics but the Ruger appears to have a smoother action out of the box.

Can I get some more input from some of you that might help me make a more educated decision when it comes time to lay some $$$ down? I'd love to get my hands on both but in my area both rifles are special order items.

Thanks. . .



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Old August 10th, 2008, 07:42 PM   #2
 
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I may not be able to help you very much, but I will try. I have a 77 RSI in 250 Savage. It is a tang safety 77. The action is super smooth and the handling is at an instinctive level. I have not had another firearm that has been so easy to carry in the woods. I have been seen holding the rifle out in front of me by the pistol grip with the muzzle parrallel to the ground like a six gun. It is light enough to carry in any fashion and not tire you out. Accuracy is exelent, I can get groups just over MOA at 100 yards every time.
Although I have never owned a CZ it is a very nice looking rifle and the bolt is slick as well. I like the Euro styling of the stock and I plan on buying one myself. The CZ's barrel is 2 inches longer then the Ruger's and that is to be considered for hunting ballistics. It will depend on what ranges you plan on shooting at.
I love my ruger but feel you can not be wrong if you get the CZ. Both of these arms have a good review and I have not seen any poor comments on iether. I know you wanted more info but that is all I can offer.
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I love those mannlicher style stocks. I'm still trying to find a #1 international.
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the cz has an advantage with it's set trigger which is one sweet set-up. The current production rugers do have the relatively new LC6 triggers which while a good improvement still require gunsmith services to adjust if ya want it any lighter.

I prefer the ruger ring mount system and believe it to be superior. Ruger rings are free with the rifle. From memory, i don't think the FS is supplied with free scope rings so you may have to purchase those seperately.

I also prefer the current ruger 3 position safety or even the older ruger tang safety over the cz safety.

Of the two, i consider the ruger to be the better balanced rifle with superior wood at least on examples i have seen---but that is subjective.
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Can’t really help you with the decision, but I just bought a CZ side-by-side ring neck and I’m really impressed with the quality. I also just bought a M77 MKII .338 and prefer the tang safety of my earlier two M77’s. I plan to purchase a CZ550 later this month, great looking firearm!

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Old October 24th, 2008, 02:08 AM   #6
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well, both are great rifles. some very good replies here. The CZ FS does not have rings included, it comes with iron sights. I too love the look of the full stock, wish they call it something besides "man-licker"lol. You cant go wrong with either model,in the end it will come down to personnel choice. let us know what you decide.
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I haven't had any fondle time with the CZ, but I'm sure it's a fine rifle. I have played with the M77 International and RSI and like them both. I really prefer the extra length barrel on the #1 while the OAL is an inch or so shorter.

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great looking #1!thanks for the pic.
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No problem. The lighting and a crappy camera washed out the wood. It's really much darker and marble caked in real life. I didn't win the wood lottery, but I didn't do to bad either. The forearm is straight and completely unfigured.

She shoots around an inch at 50 yards with open sights (my eyes being the limiting factor) and about the same at 100 with a 1-4x32 set on 4 power.
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I like the handling qualities of my MKII International and it makes for a great woods/heavy cover carbine. I prefer Internationals chambered in the short action to take even better advantage of the carbine configuration. Mine is chambered in .308 Winchester.

Somewhat off topic is a problem I haven't been able to solve with this rifle. Though all of my hunting rifles are equipped with slings, I use them chiefly for carrying over my shoulder in transit from one area to another. When actually hunting, either from a stand or stalking, I prefer to remove the sling via quick-detachable swivels to keep it from getting snagged on brush, etc. While the International has a stud on the butt for use with a quick-detachable swivel, there is nothing quick about removing the fore-end side of the sling. Anybody aware of a better set-up (maybe a velcro sling) for getting a sling off and on quicker on the International?
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Any observations concerning muzzle blast with these 18-inch barrels, especially in .270, '06, and .308 versions? There's one in town right now in .30-06 but I'm wary about the noise factor. Jack O'Connor sent me a note once in response to my plan to build a .300 Weatherby on a Mannlicher stock with a 20-inch barrel. (Hey, I was 18 then and full of goofy notions). Anyway, O'Connor cooled my enthusiasm, pointing out the muzzle blast "would take the ears of a brass monkey." I've never forgotten that piece of advice and would be interested in comments from the posters here and others who've had experience with short barrels and blast with the RSI, the Frontier, or the Compact models. Of course, we're not talking about Weatherby calibers here but input would be welcome. Thanks.
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Just to resurrect this old thread. . .I've now acquired at CZ FS in .270 and an older Interarms MK X in .308 (also the full stock). The CZ wears a new Nikon 3-9X40. The .308 is currently nekkid but will probably scope'r up soon. I'll do a side-by-side comparison and post my results.

I am still looking for that RSI maybe in .308 or even .30-06.
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Ruger RSi vs. CZ 550 FS

I own both, plus an original Mannlicher-Schonaeur 1910 in 9.5X57 (.375X2.25), a fullstock Husqvarna and a couple fullstock Sakos and a Remington Model 7 FS.

You can hardly go wrong with any one of them. The people who say they're not accurate either got a bad one or didn't know what they were doing. With the right ammo, all of these rifles are very accurate. The M-S, with iron sights and my old eyes it still about a 2" gun at 100 yards.

The CZ, Ruger and Husqvarna all at 1 1/2" or better. The Sakos and Remington are better than 1 M.O.A.

My advice is pick the one that feels best and fits your budget. Ruger and CZ are both an excellent buy for the money. If you like the look and feel of the Ruger, buy it. If the CZ's German-style stock and single-set trigger are your cup of tea, buy it.

CZ does offer 9.3X65 (a slightly bigger, more powerful version of the .36 Whelen) if you're after big stuff and also the do-everything 6.5X55.

But Ruger's four current choiuces (.243, .308, .270 and .30-06) cover all the bases.

My only caution: Once you own one full-stock rifle and carry it a while in the woods, you may find there are many reasons you need another. And that's no problem at all!
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