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Old April 1st, 2013, 04:06 AM   #31
 
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Yes, the old '06 is a kicker, especially in a lightweight rifle. That's life.

Trade it for an old model 77 in .270 and use the 130 grain bullet.



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Big guys often feel recoil more than skinny guys. It's like when you punch a speed bag and a heavy bag. The speed bag yields more easily and absorbs less of the energy from the punch. The heavy bag yields very little and gets it all. The normal weight for a 30-06 was usually about 8 1/2 to 9 1/4 lbs, scoped. The lightweight gun craze has probably done more to cause missed game than anything else. I had a Winchester Model 70 "Lightweight" in 30-06. It was a listed 6 1/4 lbs without scope and mounts and probably weighed a pound more with same. Bullet weight matters and with the 180 gr. bullets I was using, It kicked pretty hard from the bench but shooting offhand wasn't too bad. I used to remove my wallet and use it for a shoulder pad at the bench. It will do in a pinch if it's real leather with some meat to it. I wound up selling the rifle when the newer classic models started coming out. I drank the controlled round feed koolaid and still do but mostly because I like the look. That push feed M-70 shot very well, had a great trigger job done on it and the fellow I sold it to has killed a pile of deer with it in the last fifteen years. To tame the recoil, I rolled up about 12 ounces of lead flashing, put it in a sock and jammed into the hollow behind the recoil pad. I told the new owner about it and asked if he would like me to remove it. Having shot it already, he unhesitatingly declined. There's not a lot of difference in recoil between the .308 and 30-06 with the same bullet weight but it's a difference in exactly the right place for most. It's not difficult to replicate .308 or .300 Savage Ballistics with handloads in your 30-06.
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Yes, the old '06 is a kicker, especially in a lightweight rifle. That's life.

Trade it for an old model 77 in .270 and use the 130 grain bullet.
Now that's some sound advice.... The .270 is about as good as it gets for hunting the lower 48 with one gun IMO.
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If you hunt with it you won't notice any recoil when you pull the trigger on the 10 pointer.
Pretty much.....
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I think it all depends on what you get used to. I always shot my Browning 1885 High Wall 7mm Rem Mag and my Remington 700 7mm Rem Mag while just wearing a tee shirt. I always hugged the gun and made sure it was solidly planted into my shoulder and had no problems. 7mm Rem Mag kicks like a son of a gun, much worse than a .30-06 but the stock pads were just fine. I have always thought there was too much recoil in the 06, though, even from my M-1 days. I now have my father in law's 742 Woodsmaster and I don't even like how it recoils but the metal butt plate might be part of the problem?
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I think it all depends on what you get used to. I always shot my Browning 1885 High Wall 7mm Rem Mag and my Remington 700 7mm Rem Mag while just wearing a tee shirt. I always hugged the gun and made sure it was solidly planted into my shoulder and had no problems. 7mm Rem Mag kicks like a son of a gun, much worse than a .30-06 but the stock pads were just fine. I have always thought there was too much recoil in the 06, though, even from my M-1 days. I now have my father in law's 742 Woodsmaster and I don't even like how it recoils but the metal butt plate might be part of the problem?
If you shoot a 7MM Rem mag and a .30-06 together, with the same style of gun and buttpad, there's not that much of a difference between the two IMO.
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Trigger creep is right. They're pretty similar recoil-wise. Everybody has their own level of sensitivity to recoil. Lots of guys want to start out with the good old ought-six as their first big game rifle. After all, it's the most popular and versatile caliber, but it was designed to be fired in a nine pound rifle. My last 30-06 weighed 8 3/4 lbs, scoped and I found it quite comfortable to shoot. I just wasn't fond of carrying it all day. How much of a pounding you like to take while trying to make an accurate shot is your business.
If a lot of people didn't think the 30-06 is a kicker, you wouldn't see many people hunting deer with .243s.
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Ruger American Rifle in 30-06 recoil - kicking my butt

I AM THE NEW GUY HELLO ALL

I just purchased this rifle in 30-06 an being and older guy I enjoy shooting when I go I like to have fun and a rifle that kicks hard is no fun

So what I did to mine was to thread the barrel and install a 4port Muzzel brake
now my American has less kick than my AR15 in 223 ,

hard to believe I put a Brake on my Mosin Nagant 7.62x54 and it has less recoil than my AR15

Just a suggestion not right for everyone, but me I enjoy it so much I have put brakes on all my rifles ,

Plus it does not effect trajectory or Accuracy or distance, Yes it does make it louder but hay what would you rather have a black and blue shoulder ,or a better pair of ear muffs .

Because Quality is remembered long after price is forgotten

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Trigger creep is right. They're pretty similar recoil-wise. Everybody has their own level of sensitivity to recoil. Lots of guys want to start out with the good old ought-six as their first big game rifle. After all, it's the most popular and versatile caliber, but it was designed to be fired in a nine pound rifle. My last 30-06 weighed 8 3/4 lbs, scoped and I found it quite comfortable to shoot. I just wasn't fond of carrying it all day. How much of a pounding you like to take while trying to make an accurate shot is your business.
If a lot of people didn't think the 30-06 is a kicker, you wouldn't see many people hunting deer with .243s.
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I AM THE NEW GUY HELLO ALL

I just purchased this rifle in 30-06 an being and older guy I enjoy shooting when I go I like to have fun and a rifle that kicks hard is no fun

So what I did to mine was to thread the barrel and install a 4port Muzzel brake
now my American has less kick than my AR15 in 223 ,

hard to believe I put a Brake on my Mosin Nagant 7.62x54 and it has less recoil than my AR15

Just a suggestion not right for everyone, but me I enjoy it so much I have put brakes on all my rifles ,

Plus it does not effect trajectory or Accuracy or distance, Yes it does make it louder but hay what would you rather have a black and blue shoulder ,or a better pair of ear muffs .

Because Quality is remembered long after price is forgotten
Well, looking at it from a hunters point of view, I'd rather have a black and blue shoulder than a damaged ear..... No ear muffs in the woods.
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Great input all, thanks; you've given me lots of ideas. I'm going to go with the PAST shoulder pad first. Down the road I may consider adding weight and/or a recoil pad to the butt. If I have to go with a slip on pad, it will probably be the Pachmayr in leather.

All of my shooting is from the bench, for now, so adrenaline only goes so far :-)

A few of you asked about the ammo I'm using, the box I have open now is Winchester Super-X Power-Point, 165 grain. The first box was Monarch 150 grain soft point. I couldn't tell a difference between the two, but wasn't looking either.

Darkker - I'm way past the point of worrying about the cool kids; and I'm also old enough to know to stick with what I like :-)
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Thanks for the ammo info. I suspect that if you were to get with a knowledgeable reloader in your area, that in a short bit of time you could have a reduced power load that will allow you to not suffer with the gun.

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There is no shame in using a slip on recoil pad. I've used 'em in the past even when not entirely necessary. Just makes the shooting more enjoyable. I'm just plinking and target shooting.

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You're shooting a 30-06 that only weighs 6.25 pounds. Compare that to a Savage at 8.0 pounds and the recoil with the Ruger will be more noticeable to anyone. Get a Limbsaver slip on pad for shooting at the bench and remove it when in the field as the recoil is usually not noticeable when hunting. Even my Ruger American 308 which is just a tad lighter than the 30-06 has more felt recoil than any other 308 I've owned.
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Some day I'll be that knowledgeable reloader! But that's down the road...
I'm 16 and I do it. It's not all that hard once you learn the basics.
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