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Old March 30th, 2013, 03:54 PM   #1
 
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Question Ruger 77/44 & Heavy Bullets

I'm curious as to people's experience with the Ruger 77/44 and heavy bullets (300+ grains), especially at subsonic velocities.

Are they stabile? Accurate?

What are your accuracy experiences in general?

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Old March 31st, 2013, 12:39 AM   #2
 
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Good luck getting a response .
I started a thread asking about 77/44 info a couple of weeks ago and didn't get one reply .
I'm interested in heavy bullets also and have just got some Hornady 300gr , but haven't loaded any up yet .
When I do in the next couple of weeks I'll let you know how they went .

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Ruger 77/44 & Heavy Bullets

I've a 77/357 and it does good with any bullets. But I don't shoot it at any ranges much past 75 yards either.

I find it will group 2" or less regardless of ammo which is good enough for hunting.

Aside from accuracy, I'd guess those heavier bullets will kick like a mule.
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Old March 31st, 2013, 05:06 AM   #4
 
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I have a 77/44, but I use 240 gr factory loads...generally Magtech SJSP. We have done several deer in the recent season, and two large Feral Hogs as well with the 44. All were in the 80-100 yard range.

since these loads work well for both my wife and I, I don't think I will reach out to the 300 gr loads in the future.

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Old March 31st, 2013, 12:35 PM   #5
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I can't address the 77/44, but I shoot a Sharpes in 45/70, 45/90 and 45/120 as well as a T/C in 45/70. Heavy bullets mean heavy recoil. I would imagine that there is enough twist to stabilize a 300gn projectile. While I do build loads with projectiles that can weigh up to 600gn, mostly I shoot 405gn and in the T/C I use a 235gn projectile. I've fired 405gn through it, but they were not what I think of as fun.

I know this is not what you asked for, but I offer it FYI. Perhaps somebody will show up with exactly what you need.
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If you are rolling your own they can be tack drivers. I was shooting 300 and 310 grain bullets out of mine that I loaded the 300 were either XTP or Nosler bullets and the 310 were a cast bullet. The loads were 21 grains H110 and I used them in both the 77/44 and a SBH Hunter. I did not find them to be hard to shoot but YMMV.

At 100 yards off the bench I could get 1 inch groups and you could clearly hear the rounds hit the target with a loud smack.

Wish I still had that gun but I was offered a much better price then I paid for it

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American Hunter Mag had an article about .44mag revolvers and carbines. In it they claimed that their best accuracy from the 77/44 was with a 300gr Sierra. Mine shoots and kills deer so well with 240gr JSPs, that I haven't tried them yet.
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I shoot 180 grain bullets hot loads from the 77/357 and they are great. They sound and feel hardcore, chronograph @ 1400 fps, and the heavier bullets hold together better at rifle velocities. My 1894c and Blackhawk love the heavy bullets too, just realize the point of impact is lower with heavy bullets and you will be fine.

I have killed plenty of deer with factory 158 and 140 grains ammo so these heavy loads will be supreme.
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I use the Lee 310 g mold with enough pewter added to the lead to bring the weight down to 300 g, gas check it with aluminum made from a Freechex tool, at use 21g of H-110 with CCI standard primers. I get around 1400 fps with this load and it is MOA accurate. Had to size the cast bullets to .432 instead of .430 to make them stick in that miserably shallow microgroove rifling to shoot accurately, but now they do. As far as performance, they go right through local blacktails and pretty much knock them head over heals, and I dumped one large bear recently no problem. This is a hot load, though, I'd work up to it and watch your pressure signs. I also replaced the hard and thin rubber buttplate with a Limbsaver adapted from one built for a standard Model 77, fit pretty close but still required some grinding and buildup inside the stock. This makes it bearable to shoot, although with that 18" barrel it is sure loud - not as loud as by Blackhawk though! BTW, this load also shoots very nicely in my scoped Blackhawk, I lose about 700 fps but I pretty much limit shots to 100 yards or less with the handgun anyway.
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There is an outfitter here in Texas called NiteHogs that uses a suppressed Ruger 77/44 with Hornady 300 gr bullets and has had terrific success shooting hogs with NV.

My buddy was so impressed he's bought the same rifle and is waiting for his stamp to be approved.

They have video on YouTube shooting the rifle. 250 lbs. + hogs bite the dust after getting hit with this sub-sonic round. Type in NiteHogs on the YouTube search and you should be able to find the video. I believe they have shot hundreds of hogs with this set-up.

Found the web site:

http://www.nighthogs.com/About_NightHogs.html

Randy and Gerald own the company and have run that 77/44 for several years. I'm sure if you contact them they can help you out

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Is 44special OK to shoot in a 77/44 mag rifle?
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Yes 44 Spl works fine in a 77/44. In the older Ruger Auto-load 44 mag Carbine the 44 Spl was NOT recommended as it didn't have enough power to cycle the autoload function and would cause mis-feeds and stovepiping.
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What about some 340grn +P+ from Buffalo?

Heavy .44 Magnum +P+ Ammo - 340 gr. L.F.N. - G.C. (1,478 fps/M.E. 1,649 ft. lbs.):
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...ct_detail&p=54
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Hey All,
Got my eyes all over this thread. I purchased a 77/44 this year in hopes of putting Bacon on the table. The most I have fored from it so far is 240 grain White Box. They fed up the ramp wih the bolt a bit clumsey.
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I've got a question about the M77/44. Is there anywhere I could get a wood stock for one? if so please let me know. Thanks
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