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Old March 6th, 2013, 05:56 AM   #1
 
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A Ruger in .17 WSM ?

It may take some time, but I do believe the new .17 WSM will take-off
Do you think Ruger will offer something to compete with the Savage B Mag ?
Personally, I hope so….



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Old March 6th, 2013, 06:14 AM   #2
 
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I would be surprised if they don't. I would like a Single-Six revolver in .17 WSM.
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Ruger should introduce a Bolt-action, a semi auto rifle, and a single action revolver chambered in .17wsm
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I will be very surprised if the .17 WSM takes off to tell you the truth. The shooting community already has a boringly accurate and highly lethal .17 in the HMR. I have heard little or no talk about the new .17 WSM (though I've started threads about it), while the .17 HMR is becoming a legend. Had Winchester came out with a .19 or .20 WSM then I would've bought that instead of my .17 HMR, but why spend more on rifles and ammunition (and reportedly lose some accuracy) for 400 fps? The shooting community is ready for a .19 or .20 caliber rimfire, and many people on other forums have said as much.
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weve had the 5mm rimfires and they didnt meet with sales, so thats a 20 that wont be revived. as i recall it had good specs but so did the 22 mag. the 17 based on the same cartridge( and actions). Rimfires have been brutal on newcomers that are not significant improvements over existing successful rounds. even some that are or were could not make to transition into mainstream calibers. problem is the guns are not being made in any number and ammo is probubly not very widely available. this happend with a nice little 17 rimfire the 17hm2 , some guns were made but i dont see ammo ever unless its bought online and mailed to the house. so what your going to see is resistance. the manufacturers got to look at it like this, who is going to spend hundreds on a gun where ammo is always going to be hard to find. ammo makers are limited to ww likely. they cant meet there shipments of regular rimfire ammo so .... there going to wish some will buy into the whole supermagnum theme but in the end there not going to produce a ton of ammo in hopes that ruger and others will rush to produce all kinds of rifles and pistols in that caliber. its all because basically the nich is already filled for the vast majority. that is the accurate super fast flat shooting light varmint rimfire nich. so unless you can make the 17mag dissapear off the market, and i see these rounds on the shelves locally even now with the ammo shortages. i dont think the 17 supermagnum has a snowballs chance.

dont get me wrong, looks like a great round and probubly does whats advertised. but theres what ? closing in on 30 years of 17 magnums out there already? not shure about that but its been around a long time.
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I will be very surprised if the .17 WSM takes off to tell you the truth. The shooting community already has a boringly accurate and highly lethal .17 in the HMR. I have heard little or no talk about the new .17 WSM (though I've started threads about it), while the .17 HMR is becoming a legend. Had Winchester came out with a .19 or .20 WSM then I would've bought that instead of my .17 HMR, but why spend more on rifles and ammunition (and reportedly lose some accuracy) for 400 fps? The shooting community is ready for a .19 or .20 caliber rimfire, and many people on other forums have said as much.
^^^ This ^^^

And in my honest unvarnished opinion, I personally don't see much percentage in a rimfire more expensive than the .22 lr except maybe the .22 mag, but I can reload a centerfire round to the same or better ballistics for cheaper than most .22 mag or .17 HMR ammo, and I expect the WSM to be even more expensive. I also don't care for the way the light .17 bullets get pushed by the wind since wind is a CONSTANT factor here in Mt.

My 2 cents worth is that they should have went with a .25 WSM round or even a souped up .22 round, rather than try and knock the HMR off it's perch. This would be of great help to states where you legally can't varmint hunt during deer season with a centerfire, so bigger critters like coyotes could be hunted with a reasonably powerful round legally.
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^^^ This ^^^

And in my honest unvarnished opinion, I personally don't see much percentage in a rimfire more expensive than the .22 lr except maybe the .22 mag, but I can reload a centerfire round to the same or better ballistics for cheaper than most .22 mag or .17 HMR ammo, and I expect the WSM to be even more expensive. I also don't care for the way the light .17 bullets get pushed by the wind since wind is a CONSTANT factor here in Mt.

My 2 cents worth is that they should have went with a .25 WSM round or even a souped up .22 round, rather than try and knock the HMR off it's perch. This would be of great help to states where you legally can't varmint hunt during deer season with a centerfire, so bigger critters like coyotes could be hunted with a reasonably powerful round legally.
I agree wholeheartedly. A 6MM or .257" magnum rimfire cartridge would be very useful when it comes to things like Turkey, Coyotes, Porcupines, and many other similar sized animals. If I could make one cartridge magically appear, it would be a .257" rimfire cartridge.
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Yep Trigger, I think there are a lot of folks out there that would be very happy to see a more powerful cartridge they could legally hunt with!
Granted, reloading is out of the picture but it still would be nice if ammo was close to reasonable.
I had not thought of 6mm/.243 but either that or a quarter-bore would be an awesome little round I'd like to see someday!
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Yep Trigger, I think there are a lot of folks out there that would be very happy to see a more powerful cartridge they could legally hunt with!
Granted, reloading is out of the picture but it still would be nice if ammo was close to reasonable.
I had not thought of 6mm/.243 but either that or a quarter-bore would be an awesome little round I'd like to see someday!
If they could keep it under $20 for 50 rounds, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
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weve had the 5mm rimfires and they didnt meet with sales, so thats a 20 that wont be revived. as i recall it had good specs but so did the 22 mag. the 17 based on the same cartridge( and actions). Rimfires have been brutal on newcomers that are not significant improvements over existing successful rounds. even some that are or were could not make to transition into mainstream calibers. problem is the guns are not being made in any number and ammo is probubly not very widely available. this happend with a nice little 17 rimfire the 17hm2 , some guns were made but i dont see ammo ever unless its bought online and mailed to the house. so what your going to see is resistance. the manufacturers got to look at it like this, who is going to spend hundreds on a gun where ammo is always going to be hard to find. ammo makers are limited to ww likely. they cant meet there shipments of regular rimfire ammo so .... there going to wish some will buy into the whole supermagnum theme but in the end there not going to produce a ton of ammo in hopes that ruger and others will rush to produce all kinds of rifles and pistols in that caliber. its all because basically the nich is already filled for the vast majority. that is the accurate super fast flat shooting light varmint rimfire nich. so unless you can make the 17mag dissapear off the market, and i see these rounds on the shelves locally even now with the ammo shortages. i dont think the 17 supermagnum has a snowballs chance.

dont get me wrong, looks like a great round and probubly does whats advertised. but theres what ? closing in on 30 years of 17 magnums out there already? not shure about that but its been around a long time.
There's two reasons why the 5mm Rem mag failed spectacularly IMO: 1.) The shooting public didn't want a flatter shooting rimfire than the already popular .22 WMR, they weren't ready for those uncharted waters. It took until the 2000's for that market to actually develop. 2.) The name: 5MM Rem mag. The US shooting community has an aversion (save a few cases) to any cartridge with a millimeter in it's name. I have seen this first-hand, though it is a little foolish IMO. I couldn't care less if my cartridge says 6.8MM or .270!
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Thumbs up The WSM17

I would love to see a Ruger 77 in this caliber. I watched in awe a Savage bull barrel stainless Bmag put 8 shots in a 2 inch circle at 300 yds. Without changing a thing he put 5 in a 1 inch circle at 100 yds. The only complaint he had was the magazine spring wasn't as good as he had found from Ruger. He was using a Hawke scope with a ballistic calculation from his computer.
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Cheaper than Dirt has 50 rounds for $13.49
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With more on the .17wsm, here are a couple new articles on the subject, from AllOutdoor.com:

Winchester?s .17 Super Win Mag Rimfire | AllOutdoor.com

Savage B.Mag 17WSM | AllOutdoor.com

I still feel, if Ruger chambered one of their Bolt Action or even a 10/22 type Rifle in .17wsm, we'd really have something


Interesting articles from Volquartsen
https://www.volquartsen.com/page/17wsm
https://www.volquartsen.com/products...9C%93&q=17+wsm

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All I know is as soon as ruger makes one (or if) that I'll be first in line at my local gun store ordering one. And selling off my POS B Mag.
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