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Old January 28th, 2012, 11:56 AM   #1
 
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Real world accuracy from the Ruger M77 hawkeye on 308 win

Just like the title says what is the real world accuarcy out of ruger action and barrels and are the new hammer forged worth a d$%n? Would like to build a build a .75-1 moa rifle on a Mauser style action. Yeah I know there are alot of other companies to look at like FN/Winchester. But here is the kicker I am lefthanded person and I want to stick with that. Would love to have FN A3G, 1/2 MOA from the factory. But no left handed action.

So how much work is need to make a new Ruger M77 Hawkeye? And what gunsmiths do you all recommend?



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Old January 28th, 2012, 08:50 PM   #2
 
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Greetings,

The model 77 is plenty good just as it is. However, if you want a tack driver, you may want a heavier barrel. Further, it needs a tight chamber. Lastly, it needs good ammo, and a little better trigger. After all that, you may get groups, as small as, a half inch or smaller. Half inch groups would not be competitive against the real benchrest rifles.

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Ruger builds their Hawkeye rifles for hunting and you can expect that kind of accuracy or often better.

I'm guessing 1 MOA would not be out of the question for a 308. My lever rifle can shoot 1 MOA 30 caliber bullets, so a bolt gun should have no problems.
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I would get the rifle you want and shoot some different types of ammo through it. Try several bullet weights and styles. You might find that it shoots great right out of the box. If not, have the trigger done first. A light trigger that breaks crisp will help groups alot. I have an M77 in 264 that was not very accurate. I removed the barreled action and gently removed just enough material in the barrel channel to free float the barrel. Now it shoots 1 1/2" three round groups at 200 yards. It only took me about 10 minutes total and was very easy.
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Do the ruger respond well to having the action beded to the stock ? And what triggers work without being touchy/picky like Jewell triggers.
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Old January 29th, 2012, 12:33 PM   #6
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I have an M77 Tactical in .308 and with the Nikon Buckmaster 4-18 Mildot scope on it, I can get 1/2" groups at 100 yards all day long. The range I frequent has 8" gongs at 220 yards and I ring those each and every shot. Groups seem to grow to about 1-1.5" at that distance. My rifle like heavier bullets, I've been using Hornady A-Max 168 grainers.
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Do the ruger respond well to having the action beded to the stock ? And what triggers work without being touchy/picky like Jewell triggers.
Read the owner's manual on line. They talk about this.

I have used the LC6 trigger and it was superb. Light, crisp just like the name says.
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I think out of the box accuracy with most any quality, factory, non custom, rifle is a crapshoot. Most will be acceptable for the intended purpose of the rifle and some will even prove to be exceptionally accurate. The most accurate rifle I've ever owned was a bone stock, boat paddle stocked, M77 MarkII rifle in .308 when the MKIIs had just come out. The very first 3 rounds that came out of that gun all touched at 100 yards! That was nearly 20 plus years ago and it's my understanding that Ruger's barrels have improved over the years.
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Well, my LC6 trigger from the factory was a typical "creepy", crappy trigger.
A little polish work, and a spring from Ernie the gunsmith and it is a very pleasant trigger now.
Never owned a M77 that WASN'T a MOA gun. As said, factory ammo is a crap shoot. But IME it DOESN'T take voodoo chambers, and years of reloading to get tight groups.
Remember That throwing money at a problem, means you have to much money.

If you want to "make" a new hawkeye, You will need a decent(not diamond encrusted) barrel; $150-250. A set of wrenches, or a smith to final chamber it. Somewhere in the $75-250 range depending upon which route you go.

Don't get caught up in the chatter about "truing", or "squaring" things; it isn't needed.
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My M77 Hawkeye (earlier matte-blue steel) shoots to your criteria, jbsmwd. I picked it up second-hand, and it already had a Timney trigger installed and an aftermarket recoil pad. I have the original trigger parts and pad, but have seen no need to mess with the rifle. When I bought the gun, the fellow had a target he'd shot, along with his handload recipe to get that group. I can't say that I thought it was an outstanding group for a bench gun, but a Hawkeye isn't a bench gun. The group was ~3/4-minute.

With a Nikon Buckmasters scope in the Ruger rings, I am starting to test different factory ammunition. A few days ago, I put 3 Remington CoreLokt Ultra 180-grain bonded bullets on-target at 100 yards with the 3 holes touching. That was resting on a table, but I didn't let the barrel cool more than 10 seconds between shots. Weather was mid-60s and a bit of a cross-wind.

Remington UMC 150-grain FMJ doesn't shoot that well. It's more like 1.5 - 2.5 MOA. That's not surprising to me, as I haven't generally found that ammunition to be high-precision stuff in any cartridge or gun.

I didn't shoot a target for groups, but 2 different factory 175-grain 'premium' or 'match' ammunition brands shoot well at the 500-yard steel gongs (longest range my club/range has).

As far as Ruger barrels, I have read from a couple of experienced (meaning direct, physical experience with many guns) people over the past ~3-5 years that Ruger's hammer-forged bbls are among or possibly even the best mass-production barrels in the business.

I like my Hawkeye, and I recommend the product to anyone whose needs it suits.
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Cant say u can get a rifle from any of the big vendors that dosent shoot,I was luckey enough to pick up on a m77 target rifle , 26 in bull barrel ,that had the trigger done , barrel cronoed [frozen]and the chamber done and hand polished. Its current diet is good old 150 core lokts ,cant figure that out, but at a hundred yds its a one holer ,I couldn't be happier,It was a sweet deal ,at my local mom pop gun shop , some guy bought it ,had it set up that way ,gave a deposit, and never picked it up,I just had to bark up for the balance ,couldn't get any sweeter than that.Only had 20 set up rounds threw it !
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