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Old April 21st, 2011, 08:08 AM   #1
 
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Ruger GSR Update (Kind of Pic Heavy)

This is a follow up to my original thread posted here:

First impressions with my Ruger GSR, I finally got to shoot it!

I now have about 350 rounds through the rifle with no problems related to the rifle. I have found it is very accurate and recoil appears to be on the mild side.

I have added a scope and finally got to shoot it for some groups. The scope has proved to be a challenge because I am used to a high magnification/fine cross hair varmint type scope. The scope is a standard Leupold Scout scope with heavy duplex. I am really warming up to this type of scope however. It is very fast and provided and good sight picture.

So I headed up to my range north of LA. I belong to a hunting club and we have a couple of trap ranges and a rifle range on our property so this provides a quiet and relaxed place to shoot.



I got the rifle on paper at 50 yards and then moved back to 100. It was challenging for me to shoot at this distance because of the low magnification and the heavy duplex reticle. Here is a picture of a typical 100 yard group:



I then came up with an idea to shoot a little bit tighter groups. I would first split the pie or cut the circle into four even pieces in the scope. Then I would cover the red dot in the center with the cross hairs and press the trigger. This is my best group using that method:



I realize that this is not how the rifle was intended to be shot, but I need to confirm my zero and make sure my load was grouping correctly.

Here is a comparison shot of the two groups for perspective:



Next I went to 25 yards (top) and shot as quickly as possible from a low ready position and then moved back to the 50 yard line (bottom) and did it again. Here are the groups:



The one thing I learned from this is that beyond 25 yards, I need some type of rest or position change to hit. At 50 I knelled down and used a pipe for support. Although it slowed me down a bit, I was able to hit the target with much better accuracy. I have a lot of practicing to do.

Finally I loaded up the rifle and went for a walk to check the back fence to see if anyone has been coming on to our property. It took about an hour and I enjoyed hefting the rifle. It carries well for me and is easy to carry through the light bush we have up there. Here are some random shots I took of the rifle on this walk:







Final thoughts:

C-Products mags continue to suck. Do not buy them or any from the new company. They have bugs.

Muzzle blast is a non issue. It is not louder than the other two rifles I was shooting yesterday.

Accuracy is very good. With a conventional scope it would be possible to shoot some great groups. Don't believe the "Ruger's Can't Shoot" myth.

Overall this is a great little rifle and works exactly how I hoped it would. It is prefect for protecting my rural property and it very fun to shoot.

Hope this was informative.

Matt




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Old April 21st, 2011, 08:34 AM   #2
 
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Hey Matt,

Thanks for the good range report, and some nice photos. I only have about 60 rounds through my same set-up GSR. Your impressions about the scope mirror my thoughts.

I, too, have given up on C product mags. I picked up a couple of Accuracy International (AI) 5 round mags instead, and have found them to be reliable. They are no great bargain, but they do work.

Trying to get some open range time. I belong to a club that has an indoor range, but would like to check it out in the great outdoors.

Overall, I am quite satisfied with my little GSR.

Be safe,
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Thanks for that write up - liked the pictures too! I am now even more enthused to get mine (on order). I also saw a neat write up in the latest edition of American Rifleman magazine

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Great pics of the beautiful high desert! We are headed out there with the OHV's tomorrow.

I bought this rifle for a similar application. During the cool months we camp/off-road in the deserts, then in the hot months we switch to the cool temps at high altitude in the mountains (Eastern Sierra mostly). Both of these venues feature mostly wide open terrain, so I want something with at least moderately long range, yet I don't want to drag around some beast with a long/heavy barrel either. In the dust and dirt, I much prefer a bolt action!

I think I will end up with a Leupold Mk8 at some point, rather than any of the IER "scout" type scopes.

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We do the same thing. Winter in the desert/Summer up to coyote flat or somewhere above Bishop. That is why I like this rifle; it works well for most of the places I go.

I like the idea of a more traditional scope, but I want to keep the irons. I am going to keep working on the IER and see how it works out. I am off to the desert near Victorville tomorrow, so I will be able to shoot at further distances.

Poppies are crazy out in the Antelope Valley.

Have a good one,

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We do the same thing. Winter in the desert/Summer up to coyote flat or somewhere above Bishop. That is why I like this rifle; it works well for most of the places I go.

I like the idea of a more traditional scope, but I want to keep the irons. I am going to keep working on the IER and see how it works out. I am off to the desert near Victorville tomorrow, so I will be able to shoot at further distances.

Poppies are crazy out in the Antelope Valley.

Have a good one,

Matt
Good point!!! I had not considered that issue....

Coyote is one of our favorite areas! I hope to retire in the Bishop/Mammoth area some day.

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From an article in Shooting Times Personal Defense, 2010:

"In 1988 a Marine disapeared on the northern edge of the base at Twentynine Palms, CA. His body wasn't found for a year, but during the seach 11 other corpses were."

Don't let your guard down!
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Thanks for the heads up OR,

This guy is missing right now near our club:

The Mountain Enterprise: Breaking News: Reward Offered in Man's Disappearance

Most folks in the valley think the local meth producers are involved. I always watch my back out there and always pack heat.

The desert is a wonderful place, but requires a certain degree of awareness.
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Nice post & good report. How are you liking the forward mounted optics? No issues with focal length?
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I have been shooting with a scout scope for 5 or 6 years now. They are a little hard to get the hang of but they work well once you do. I just sent my scout scope back to Leupold yesterday, the horizontal cross wire broke. Back up iron sights are a good thing, I have quick release rings so it only took seconds to get back in action.
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Hmm, not good news about having to send your scout scope back to Leupold. I think I have the same scope as yours, including quick release rings. I had originally mounted the scope, taking off the rear iron site. But later got the QR rings and mounted the scope on the rail and reinstalled the rear iron site. Like you said... back in action in seconds.

Good luck,
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Matt..glad to see that the scope is working out for you.... A couple of questions...

What ammo are you using?

Whose rings are you using? I use the Ruger Low rings and the line of sight is much lower than the ones on your gun.

One has to remember the purpose of the Scout concept as far as accuracy is concerned...it is to rapidly put a bullet into a kill zone not necessarily "dotting" and eye.... My standard is how fast and how far away can I hit a 9" paperplate or a standard piece of typing paper from a field position...

Also try using a paperplate with a 2-3" orange dot in the middle...it is mach easier to see the black crosshairs on the white plate than against a black target...

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Though I'm not a huge fan of the forward scope mount, I like the features of the rifle. Nice pics and review.
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RJM52 I am reloading with Varget and a 150 grain bullet. The rings I am using are too high, but I will order some Leupold QD lows here soon. They are just what I had in the garage and let me get it set up. I have to raise my head a bit to use the scope and this is not good. I found a target on the scout rifle form that works with this scope. Once I rezero with the lower rings I will take your advice and use 8-9 inch paper plates. If I can hit those, I will be happy.

I am coming from a varmint shooting background some tight groups and long range are kind of ingrained into my head. I need to move on from that.

I sent the C-Products mags back to Midway they exchanged them no questions asked. I received Accuracy International mags and they are so much better. The rifle feeds like butter and the mags are easy to load. For now, I feel they are the way to go. I will get up to the desert again in a week or so and hopefully will have the new rings installed. I will report back on the new mags.

I was thinking about using Silver Bear ammo from practice. Does anyone have experience with this ammo from a bolt gun?

Thanks,

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I'm looking at the options for my Front Site Scout Rifle and come from a marksman background. Sounds like the scout configuration takes some getting used to.
As this thread is an older one, "about one year old now" what new ideas have shooters of the Ruger Scout come up with?
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