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Old May 19th, 2017, 07:35 AM   #1
 
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Intro rifle for new shooter?

Looking for opinions (I know everyone has one!)
I don't shoot rifles very much at all, but my daughter's boyfriend got a 6.5 Creedmoore for target shooting. The usually go shooting together and when they are done shooting hand guns, they head to the rifle range. She usually spots for him. She doesn't like the bigger rifle and gets stuck sitting and watching most of the time.
What would be a good intro caliber for her to get introduced to target shooting at 100 yards? I was thinking 223. My buddy had a 22-250 at one time and it was an absolute tack driver. She's tiny at about 110lbs and somewhat recoil shy.
Any ideas? I'd like to get a bolt gun. No semi autos.



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Old May 19th, 2017, 07:43 AM   #2
 
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Its hard to go wrong with a bolt action in .223. Ammo is the cheapest of any common caliber, and available everywhere. There are also a few bolt actions available in 7.62x39, but the variety of different types of ammo in .223 makes that the choice I would recommend.

As far as a brand of rifle, of course, Ruger makes the list, Howa, Savage, Mossburg, Tikka, Remington, and Weatherby all make excellent .223 bolt action rifles
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It has always been said that your first gun should be a BOLT ACTION. For one thing you have to CYCLE THE BOLT for each round. This gives the shooter a moment to relax and forget about AIMING/SQUEEZING THE TRIGGER at the target.

I have seen too many kids and even adults at the range get a SEMI-AUTO or PUMP-ACTION rifle and shoot off a 10 round magazine (or 30 round AR) and not even think about reacquiring the target in between rounds. Learning the basics of shooting, sighting, and squeezing off each round on a BOLT ACTION RIFLE are a MUST IN MY OPINION. . . In addition it takes a lot longer to shoot a box of ammo with a bolt action rifle!!! My Grandson asked me once if he could shoot off a 10 round mag in my MATCH AR-15 and I told him, "SURE, JUST ONCE." After about 3 seconds he said, "GEE THAT WAS FAST, CAN I DO IT AGAIN WITH A 30 Round Mag?" - - - NO!! I said . . .

As said before there are a lot of good rifles out there - but DO NOT OVERLOOK THE RUGER M77 MKII TARGET rifles. There are none more solid and none more accurate - I KNOW FROM FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE . . I sold my almost $3000 Remington Varmint VSSF in .223 and purchased TWO RUGER M77 MKII TARGET RIFLES in .223 and .308 and let me tell you that they shoot WAY BETTER than I do with my old eyes . . and equally as accurate as the most expensive rifles. All STAINLESS STEEL but coated with RUGER'S SPECIAL GREY BARREL COATING.



Both the .308 on top and the .223 on bottom have exactly the same weight and scopes so I can switch between the two and the only difference is the KICK of the .308 vs the very mild .223 . . .

And for a little added excitement here is my STAG ARMS MATCH AR-15 - 24 inch Stainless Bull Barrel with 1.5 pound MATCH TRIGGER in .223Rem . . .


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Id go with a 223/5.56. make sure to get one with the Wylde chamber, so it can shoot both 223 rem and 5.56.

The 223 has no recoil to speak of, and is a great entry level rifle for someone as a trainer. Also really versatile. And has great accuracy to 400 meters.

As Weblance said, also inexpensive & available, with just about any ammo type you can imagine.

I got a Savage model 10 XP predator on a trade a few years back. I was never really into Savage, but this turned out to be a pretty decent rifle. Has a good trigger, smooth action, and was easily a 2' @ 100 , or better, right out of the box. I shoot it @ 250 yards and it runs about a 4' group, depending on ammo type. Ive only really ever used military grade, and its definitely good enough for varmint hunting on cheap ammo.

I would imagine my groups would tighten up considerably if I used match grade, or heavier ammo.

The absolute LAST thing I would want to do is hand some newbie a fire breather that kicks. That can make a newbie gunshy and flinch, & ruin someone for life.

.223/5.56 gets my vote.

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.223 would be good.
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Another vote for a 223 Rem. Besides bolt actions, there are some decent single shot 223 Rem rifles that are very accurate. I think the point is .... learn to walk before you run. In my own poor authority situation, I taught my Granddaughter to shoot. I started right with a single shot 22 rifle and worked up from there. I gave her a 10/22 for Christmas and what a mistake that turned out to be. She must have thought ammo grew on trees because she burned through a large portion of gramp's ammo stash during the worst part of the ammo shortage. Her marksmanship skills went down the tubes when she got the 10/22 where the quantity of ammo fired was way more important than the quality of hitting the target. I got her back on track with my Remy Mod 700 bolt action, chambered in 223 Rem. Of course it is scoped but man what a tack driver. My second mistake was introducing her to my Ruger AR556 .... a true ammo eater of the worst kind. Although the AR556 is quite accurate, it is obviously a lot more fun for her to see if she can melt the barrel and could care less if she hits the target or not. All I can say is .... thank God for Dillon RL 550s. Go for a bolt action or single shot 223 Rem .... you won't be sorry!
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Another vote for a 223 Rem. Besides bolt actions, there are some decent single shot 223 Rem rifles that are very accurate. I think the point is .... learn to walk before you run. In my own poor authority situation, I taught my Granddaughter to shoot. I started right with a single shot 22 rifle and worked up from there. I gave her a 10/22 for Christmas and what a mistake that turned out to be. She must have thought ammo grew on trees because she burned through a large portion of gramp's ammo stash during the worst part of the ammo shortage. Her marksmanship skills went down the tubes when she got the 10/22 where the quantity of ammo fired was way more important than the quality of hitting the target. I got her back on track with my Remy Mod 700 bolt action, chambered in 223 Rem. Of course it is scoped but man what a tack driver. My second mistake was introducing her to my Ruger AR556 .... a true ammo eater of the worst kind. Although the AR556 is quite accurate, it is obviously a lot more fun for her to see if she can melt the barrel and could care less if she hits the target or not. All I can say is .... thank God for Dillon RL 550s. Go for a bolt action or single shot 223 Rem .... you won't be sorry!
That is oh so true. My nephew, ( 11 yrs old) is a crack shot with his bolt action 22 and bolt action .223. But hand him a semi, he just burns ammo as fast as he can and dont hit nothing. Ive seen him take my JR Carbine, which is very accurate, and not even hit the target. But he can burn (10) 17 round mags in a few minutes. Thats about $40 in ammo. Now I only take a 10 round mag to camp when varminting.. Funny how he lost interest in shooting it all a sudden.

BOLT ACTION is the way to go for a newbie.

It gives them time to learn how to concentrate, breath, squeeze, and shoot properly.
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My vote is for the 204 Ruger, without a doubt the mildest of recoils out there. Extremely fast, my velocities at muzzle average 4360 and extremely accurate.

The gun is not much fun to shoot at 100yds, the fun doesn't start till you get pass 300.




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I am with most of the guys here, bolt .223 remington. Also another good starter would be the 243 win, both are mild. My wifes first centerfire rifle was a 243 mossberg atr, very accurate, and useful, and not so punishing to shoot.
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Ruger® Ruger American Rifle® Ranch Bolt-Action Rifle Model 6965
Accurate, very little recoil,and reasonably priced...
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l have a Ruger American in .223, .308, and .22LR
.223 is good. little recoil, pretty accurate too. ammo and the rifle are inexpensive

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Something like a 223 is right on...might want to stay away from some of the "exotics" like a 22/250..great caliber if you hand load and don't mind replacing barrels now and then...I shoot a 25/06 and hand load for it to keep my arthritis in check..wonderful caliber but again...a handloader's caliber...223 is really the "22 lr" of the centerfire rifles...and for sure a bolt gun.
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.223 for sure dirt cheap to run lots of ammo choices easy to shoot all day. Mild muzzle blast and recoil. Pleasant for those standing next her shooting.
I have had a few rifles in 22/250 sure they go like a rocket ship and are very accurate they can be expensive to feed and that very sharp muzzle noise and flash will be fun for someone light framed for the first 20 rounds or so but after that not so much..
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Ruger® Ruger American Rifle® Ranch Bolt-Action Rifle Model 6965
Accurate, very little recoil,and reasonably priced...

I really like this American rifle Ranch
rail installed, threaded barrel, takes 5.56/.223
the regular American rifle is chambered for .223.
5.56 is a nice option to have.
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My first rifle was a lever action. Same thing you need to cycle the action. I watched too many westerns I guess.
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