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Old May 18th, 2017, 07:26 PM   #1
 
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American ranch 223/556

I got a american ranch 223/556 just got it back from ruger with nothing done to it.I sent it in because stock was against barrel from end of stock to over half way to reciever tried to adjust it as much as could didnt help so wrote in detail problem and sent to ruger. At 50 yards hits are all over a 8 inch target. What should I do now. My 22 charger stock will and does out shoot this rifle. Not happy rifle owner at all😡

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Old May 18th, 2017, 07:56 PM   #2
 
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Sorry to hear about your experiences with the American I don't own one but they seem to run hot and cold owners either love them or wish they had never bought one. I would give Ruger customer service a call. Just explain what's going on that its been returned to them and back to you with nothing changing. I cant speak for Ruger over there but the whole seller/importer for Ruger here would of fixed it or already replaced it no questions asked.
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unusual. Call ruger again and say you need it fixed.
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Update just got off phone with Ruger customer service. As always they are making it right. 3rd time Iv ever had a issue with a Ruger firearm in 40plus years and thats why all my guns are rugers. 😀

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That's good news hopefully it comes back sorted..
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Keep us posted.
I'm crabby about my RAR in .223/5.56 shooting 1.25 inch groups at fifty yards. I think it's because of barrel heating. Next time at the range, I'll try putting 1.5 -2 minutes between shots to see if it tightens up. If so, it will be time to call 300 Below.

Has anyone else noticed this problem?
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I am having same thing after 10 shots it gets worse than already was. When ur timed on range you dont have time and shouldnt have to wait 5 min between shots just to let barrel cool. I can shoot my charger over 300 rounds back to back with high velocity ammo and not loose quarter size groups at 50yards

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I'm a bit confused by some of the responses here. The RAR in question here, like the Mini-14, is called a "ranch rifle." It's not called a target rifle, precision rifle, benchrest rifle, or anything of the sort. A ranch rifle is meant to be a handy rifle, light and compact, that can easily be carried around in a truck, an ATV, or on horseback, or even just carried. It is designed to be a good tool for coyote control, varmint control, some hunting.

Like any modern rifle, a ranch rifle should be capable of shooting good 3 shot groups at 100 yards. Most tapered barrel hunting rifles, however, will tend to lose accuracy after heating up, and will not shoot nearly as accurately if shot 5-10 times in succession.

I have only fired one RAR ranch rifle, and it was very accurate. If I owned one, though, I would not try to use it as a benchrest target rifle.
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I hear what ur saying ditto 1958. Besides my 80s 1022 and a shotgun this is my first real rifle. Im a handgun person. I guess I learned hardway im just trying to still enjoy shooting with a bang with old worn out hands cant take the recoil of my favorite handguns anymore so tried a light cheap with a big bang rifle.

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I understand what you are saying and you're probably right. I am expecting quite a bit. However, if a trip to 300 Below will give me a MOA shooter, I'll do it. I would like to have a light weight rifle that shoots like heavy varmint gun.
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I got back to the range (finally!) and put one full minute between shots.

My first group was right at 1 inch at fifty yards. (I used that distance because there is a wind break out to the fifty yard berm and I wanted to keep wind drift out of the equation.)

I continued shooting and got a best group of four shots of .39 inches with a called flier that opened the five shot group to .68 inches. This group was shot without waiting any particular time between shots and was probably done in about 1 1/2 to 2 minutes.

Most of my previous "precision" shooting has been done with .22's and rifles heavier than the Ranch; I have come to the following conclusion:
The Ruger Ranch Rifle, being lightweight, is significantly affected by how firmly the butt is against your shoulder and how consistently you address the trigger; slight variations will open your group.
I believe my previous bad performance was do to a "bad day" and resulting inconsistencies in shooting technique. I will continue to practice and, hopefully, eliminate the fliers.

BTW, my best group was with PMC Bronze 55 grain.
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I just bought a ranch rifle in 5.56, haven't shot it yet. I think the biggest reason people would complain about accuracy is that the rifle advertises 1 MOA on the box ("offers minute-of-angle accuracy"). If you buy a rifle that advertises 1 MOA it should at least do 1 MOA for the first tag of the range session.
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I just bought a ranch rifle in 5.56, haven't shot it yet. I think the biggest reason people would complain about accuracy is that the rifle advertises 1 MOA on the box ("offers minute-of-angle accuracy"). If you buy a rifle that advertises 1 MOA it should at least do 1 MOA for the first tag of the range session.
Yes, it "should." Except that the shooter needs to be able to do his/her job, the ammo needs to be good, and the scope needs to be good, and properly mounted.

If you take a new rifle to the range and don't get 1 inch groups first time out, there are a lot of things to be ruled out before blaming the rifle.
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I agree. I'm am no marksman, although I can usually tell the difference between rifle issue and my issue. If I have issues with getting good groups, I have a better shooter give it a go.
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