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Old April 3rd, 2017, 12:16 PM   #1
 
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Ruger American 308.....good stuff

Four years ago my son and I decide it was time to hunt mule deer out west. I'm from Minnesota and have always used a slug gun for deer the few times I went hunting in the fall so needless to say....we needed rifles. I was going to buy both rigs and didn't want to spend thousands on a pair of rifles. I also didn't want to have different guns mainly to prevent the arguement that Dads gun was "better" and that's why "I" missed. I really wanted him to realize its just as much the shooter as anything else. We ended up with a pair of Ruger Americans, one in 308 (mine) and a 30-06 (his).

We managed to find a very nice rancher in Wyoming who has continued to let us hunt his property during thier doe and fawn season. Don't laugh too much about only going for does and fawns. This last year the limit was four apiece and the first year we went there wasn't a limit. The tags cost less than it does for a resident Minnesota licence and we've always came back with deer meat. The mule's are larger than the white tails here and actually taste better without processing. Last year we came back with 6 in four days of hunting and each year has been about the same give or take a deer or two. In other words..........we've had a blast and we both look forward to both the hunting and the naps on a sunny, southern facing mountain slope.

This year my son is graduating high school and joining the Marines and won't be around this fall. I'll miss him but I also gained a new son-in-law who will be taking his place this fall. The three of us went to the range to get some practice in and get my son-in-law familiar with my sons 30-06. It took while to recover from a winters worth of sitting on the lazy boy but we finally got some good groups.
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I guess the whole purpose of this post is to show the above group from my 308 with cheap ammo. Jakes 30-06 will group the same with Hornadys. Before we went out to the range yesterday I was seriously looking at a Sako A7 or the like to replace the Ruger American. I don't think I'll be doing that this fall. That group is pretty representive of my shooting with that ammo and while I can squeeze a bit more out of it if completely benched and switching to Trophy bonded that is for the most part, MOA shooting. I'm not sure if the Sako for $1200 is going to beat the RUger in my hands at least.

I've read quite a bit about having guns that are "heirloom" quality but maybe I already have one......at least for all the memories and lessons taught over the last few years. The Ruger has turned into a keeper.




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What part of Wyoming do you hunt? Not looking to move in on your "spot". I grew up there and parents are still in NE WY.
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Morning,

We hunt close to Sheridan and stay there at a Best Western. I've grown to like Sheridan and the area. Beautiful sunrises and sunsets and the people there make you feel at home.Much different than our southern corn fields or northern forests. We look forward to it every year.

I didn't want to break the bank on glass either so my son has a Crossfire II 4-12 and I have 3-9 Redfield. While neither of these is top of the line by any means they are good, clear glass that has worked well even in low light. We have Black Hawke bipods on them that are a little heavy but they work well for shooting seated. When prone, they are an inch or two high retracted on a completely flat surface but most of the time we can find a spot that slopes away from us to get the gun where we need it. I'm not sure that there is a bipod that will do both positions perfectly? If anyone has a suggestion, please feel free to let me know.

PS. When hunting I alway carry my 357 with a couple of rounds of bird shot and the rest HPs for taking care of snakes and taking a finishing shot at close range if needed. I haven't let my son carry out there but this year he turned 18 so I called the Sheridan County Sheriffs Dept. just to make sure I was OK with Wyoming changing there carry laws recently. We had a nice conversation and I mentioned that it would be nice to move out there when I retire. The Deputy immediately laughingly said that I should keep my sorry big city *** in Minnesota and they don't need any more "city folk" out there. We both chuckled and I explained to him that there are two Minnesotas. The one that exists in the large cities and the other that still survives in the towns and rural areas. I belong to the second group and the attitudes of rural Wyoming and rural Minnesota are almost identical. He agreed and said they're starting to have the same problem out there. Sad state of affairs for sure.

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Welcome from middle Georgia. You'll really enjoy those rifles! I bought the Compact AllWeather LH in .308. Sold a LH accurized Remmy 700 in .270 to do it. You have both an heairloom and the satisfaction of knowing you didn't pay an arm or a leg for it. Sounds like you really have a nice setup for the hunts. I just relocated to middle Georgia from NW Missouri. Will have to find places to hunt and get used to the smaller whitetails here at home after 2 decades out there. When you get to the high quality ammo or handload you'll find all kinds of accuracy.
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Four years ago my son and I decide it was time to hunt mule deer out west. I'm from Minnesota and have always used a slug gun for deer the few times I went hunting in the fall so needless to say....we needed rifles. I was going to buy both rigs and didn't want to spend thousands on a pair of rifles. I also didn't want to have different guns mainly to prevent the arguement that Dads gun was "better" and that's why "I" missed. I really wanted him to realize its just as much the shooter as anything else. We ended up with a pair of Ruger Americans, one in 308 (mine) and a 30-06 (his).

We managed to find a very nice rancher in Wyoming who has continued to let us hunt his property during thier doe and fawn season. Don't laugh too much about only going for does and fawns. This last year the limit was four apiece and the first year we went there wasn't a limit. The tags cost less than it does for a resident Minnesota licence and we've always came back with deer meat. The mule's are larger than the white tails here and actually taste better without processing. Last year we came back with 6 in four days of hunting and each year has been about the same give or take a deer or two. In other words..........we've had a blast and we both look forward to both the hunting and the naps on a sunny, southern facing mountain slope.

This year my son is graduating high school and joining the Marines and won't be around this fall. I'll miss him but I also gained a new son-in-law who will be taking his place this fall. The three of us went to the range to get some practice in and get my son-in-law familiar with my sons 30-06. It took while to recover from a winters worth of sitting on the lazy boy but we finally got some good groups.
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I guess the whole purpose of this post is to show the above group from my 308 with cheap ammo. Jakes 30-06 will group the same with Hornadys. Before we went out to the range yesterday I was seriously looking at a Sako A7 or the like to replace the Ruger American. I don't think I'll be doing that this fall. That group is pretty representive of my shooting with that ammo and while I can squeeze a bit more out of it if completely benched and switching to Trophy bonded that is for the most part, MOA shooting. I'm not sure if the Sako for $1200 is going to beat the RUger in my hands at least.

I've read quite a bit about having guns that are "heirloom" quality but maybe I already have one......at least for all the memories and lessons taught over the last few years. The Ruger has turned into a keeper.
Sounds like you've got a good thing going there. I'd say it's a keeper as well.
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They are a nice value rifle. My buddy has one and it's great. Accurate too.
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Couple more days and I will have mine, left handed though. Can't wait. Looking at the vortex you mentioned also.
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Good honest review I have seen the American range of rifles in the gunstore and not really warmed to them not sure why. maybe , I think its a thinking price equals quality thing..or that ole you get what you pay for. But there is always an exception to the rule.. They will be on my radar now as a choice. To be honest every time I buy a "fancy/expensive" rifle to go hunting with it usually ends up scratched or marked the first or second time out anyway.
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Good honest review I have seen the American range of rifles in the gunstore and not really warmed to them not sure why. maybe , I think its a thinking price equals quality thing..or that ole you get what you pay for. But there is always an exception to the rule.. They will be on my radar now as a choice. To be honest every time I buy a "fancy/expensive" rifle to go hunting with it usually ends up scratched or marked the first or second time out anyway.
LOL! Scratches and dings are one of the reasons for the American. My son crawled a few hundred yards up a wash sometimes on his belly to get a clean shot at one two years ago. I was up on a ridge looking down on the whole thing....very cool to watch.....especially since he was successful. We've both banged them around a fair amount and I don't have a mini heart attack when the 308 gets dragged through the brush or a rock or two.

They aren't perfect though. The biggest issue was the stock putting pressure on the barrel at times when using the bipods. I had to open the channel up on both guns to prevent inaccuracy. The bolt isn't as smooth as some when sitting in the living room but last year I had two down in front of me after an hour and a half stalk. Those two shots were taken very quickly and I didn't notice the bolt a bit.... Other than that they are are pretty solid guns.
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Good honest review I have seen the American range of rifles in the gunstore and not really warmed to them not sure why. maybe , I think its a thinking price equals quality thing..or that ole you get what you pay for. But there is always an exception to the rule..
The American rifles are definitely an exception to the rule. For me it's a big turn on to see such a great rifle at such a good price. You could pay hundreds or thousands more and not get as good of a shooter in some rifles out there. And if you don't like the American stock, a Boyd's for it is only $144 or less.
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I do 100 % agree about the value I was at the gunstore yesterday and had a like bright sunlight through stained glass windows in a church kind of moment, when I worked out how many of them you can buy for the price of another "normal" mainstream rifle.. next problem now is a bigger gun safe..
As for dings and scratches I could almost write a comedy book as to the ways you can scratch or ding your rifle hunting. I get some of the rifles out and laugh or cringe when I clean them remembering how each mark in the steel or dent in the stock got there.
I have a rather large and overly enthusiastic dog that comes hunting with me and he or an internal combustion powered vehicle combined with gravity, rain, thorn bushes, slippery rocks and logs have produced some interesting camp fire stories..
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I have the Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor, and it might just be my favorite rifle. I can get .536" five shot groups too. It spanks my Howa 1500 .300 Win-Mag at 100 yards.

I'm looking for an American Ranch in 5.56 now. I have no doubts in this product line now.
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What would you say the accurate distance is for this rifle, factoring in a Vortex Crossfire 2 scope, and a average skilled shooter?
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What would you say the accurate distance is for this rifle, factoring in a Vortex Crossfire 2 scope, and a average skilled shooter?
We've taken more than a few between 300-350 yds but we tend to practice a lot at 200 yds plus. The conditions...namely wind...have to be right too. The longest was at 468 yds and was a one shot kill with the 308. Everything was just right though and I don't make a habit out of taking that long of a shot without conditions being good. That doesn't happen all that often.

Yesterday we were out at my brothers and set a 12" steel plate out at 263 yds. Don't ask why that distance....we just took the jeep out about "far enough" and set the plate up. The conditions were not great but I ended up going 12 for 12 using Kentucky windage. My son missed 2 but he was switched ammo to try out another brand and it didn't seem to preform as well as the Hornady.

Hope this answered your question. 500 yds plus shots with over 45" of drop with a little drift to boot are hard shots that take a lot of practice and skill no matter the gun.
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