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Old March 24th, 2017, 04:21 PM   #1
 
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Why 450 Bushmaster?

I'm itching to know, having seen the new Scout Rifle, what is the purpose of 450 Bushmaster? I read some stuff a couple of months ago about a dealer in Michigan who had Ruger make some American Ranch Rifles in 450, and he was selling them faster than Ruger could make 'em.

Seems as though there's some strong interest in the caliber. Do people want it for hunting? Or, to just have a large caliber "thumper?" Or both?



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I just got my first look at this one. Walnut, all the Scout features, and Ruger quality makes this about the most interesting thing they have sprung on us fans in a long time. .450 Bushmaster, and I've only recently ever heard of such a thing. I'll be very excited to hear how the folks like this little six and half pound piece! Beautiful.
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Would be a great Hog round. Of course now I live in an area not infested with them.

I have seen then called Pig Poppers and Hog Hammers.

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Apparently the Michigan thing is hunting related. Michigan opened up some hunting opportunities in what they call the "limited firearm zone" but it had to be a straight walled pistol cartridge under a certain length. The 450 Bushmaster fit the regs so a market was born and the demand there has been brisk.

The ballistics are pretty interesting and I'm getting intrigued, although I'm not sure why I would ever need a rifle in 450 Bushmaster. According to what I recently read in the latest RENE newsletter the 450 Bushmaster pushes a Hornady 250 grain SST Flex-Tip at 2200 fps with 2686 ft/lb of energy at the muzzle. A 265 grain 44 Mag is measured at 1180 fps with 741 ft/lb at the muzzle. The same bullet in the 450 Bushmaster at 200 yards still travels at 1524 fps with 1289 ft/lb of energy. Sounds impressive.

RENE reports 6 different versions of the American Rifle in 450 Bushmaster and now the GSR makes 7. Maybe the 450 Bushmaster is the next big thing?
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Apparently the Michigan thing is hunting related. Michigan opened up some hunting opportunities in what they call the "limited firearm zone" but it had to be a straight walled pistol cartridge under a certain length. The 450 Bushmaster fit the regs so a market was born and the demand there has been brisk.

The ballistics are pretty interesting and I'm getting intrigued, although I'm not sure why I would ever need a rifle in 450 Bushmaster. According to what I recently read in the latest RENE newsletter the 450 Bushmaster pushes a Hornady 250 grain SST Flex-Tip at 2200 fps with 2686 ft/lb of energy at the muzzle. A 265 grain 44 Mag is measured at 1180 fps with 741 ft/lb at the muzzle. The same bullet in the 450 Bushmaster at 200 yards still travels at 1524 fps with 1289 ft/lb of energy. Sounds impressive.

RENE reports 6 different versions of the American Rifle in 450 Bushmaster and now the GSR makes 7. Maybe the 450 Bushmaster is the next big thing?


The .450 bushmaster will probably kill shot gun deer hunting in the state of Michigan. The DNR has recommended to the NRC to make the use of certain straight walled pistol cartridges in the shot gun zone permanent after the three year trial.

Randy's is the name of the store in bad axe. He has made a small fortune with the gun. Every one he could get in has been sold quickly. His monopoly in the state/country will end soon with it being a catalog firearm now. A good run while it lasted.

Quarter size groups at 100 yards have been the norm from what I have seen with them from the average guy. They are the hot ticket right know and everybody knows about them.

I would like one but, my eyes are on that Henry single shot in .44 mag when they come out in May.


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We were just talking about this at our fav gun shop today. Guess the 450 fits is the AR mag single stacked so that made a big boar new style hunting option for that platform.
I like a .44mag and after today she got a .556 to go with my .308 lefty so if its made lefty I'm in. Might as well get all three.
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There are some LH versions of the American Rifle in 45 Bushmaster. Perhaps in time there will be a LH GSR in 450 Bushmaster.
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Why 450 Bushmaster?

I kid you not. They way they are selling here as long as they hold up over time. This .450 bushmaster could be to my generation what the Winchester 94 and Marlin 336 in .30-.30 was to dad and grandpas generation. Everybody was two even if you don't hunt in Michigan because, they get passed down from both sides of the family.


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What I read seems to confirm the demand in Michigan is very strong. If the other states that only allow pistol caliber rifles or shotgun slugs for deer follow suit (ie. Indiana) then there will be even broader appeal for hunters. I'm actually intrigued by the cartridge on it's own merits. Just gotta find some justifiable reason to need one.....hog hunting perhaps. But I've used that excuse for 45-70, 308 and 375 Ruger. Mrs. Waveform isn't likely to go along with that one again.
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other than the states with those special regs, I think the 450 Marlin would be a better choice for a big bore bolt rifle! 450 Bushmaster uses .452 dia bullets, 450 Marlin uses .458. Better bullet selection in .458 I think. Have been wishing for a compact Magnum in 450 Marlin for a while.
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Michigan has some screwy regs. In most states a .45-70 would be legal for a straight walled pistol cartridge. In Michigan it is not because the case length is to long.


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Hmm, wish they would make this in 458SOCOM, the reason I chose this over the 450Bushmaster was the flexibility to use the same bullets in my 45-70! But the 458SOCOM is NOT a straight wall cartridge....I like the platform for it although I'll admit the AR platform is nice too!
Don't know if I'll be able to resist buying one if I come across one of these in a LGS!
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I am thinking of getting one. They give a good distance here in Southern Michigan. Close to 300 yards. Before it was slug gun or Black powder. They have been hot sellers. My decesion is the American for $530 or the Scout for $879. If I put a Boyd stock and muzzle break on the American. What is different on the Scout??
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