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Old March 21st, 2017, 08:19 PM   #1
 
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Thoughts on 77/44?

Hello all,

There's a used (but in great shape) Ruger 77/44 for sale near me, and I'm curious if anyone is willing to share their thoughts on the gun. I have read that the triggers can be pretty junky, and I probably wouldn't use it for hunting. I'd probably keep open sites on it and use it for a fun plinker (I *love* shooting my lever .44, so I wouldn't mind adding this one to the stable).

Price the guy is asking for is $650, and it comes with 100 rounds of factory ammo.


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Old March 22nd, 2017, 04:07 AM   #2
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I had one so I'll share my experience. It's a very light rifle so it's a breeze to carry in the field all day. Mine did not group very well beyond 50 yards despite trying a variety of factory ammo. It liked a premium silver tip ammo the best but that was too spendy for plinking and stuff like Winchester white box was less than ideal. I bought mine for hunting so I was disappointed in the accuracy department. Others here have found ways to wring better performance out of theirs with various stock mods and such but I didn't pursue it. I found the recoil to be surprisingly hard on my shoulder, likely due to the light weight of the gun. In working with it at the range I usually grew tired of the beating after only 50 rounds or less. 44 Mag is one of my favorite handgun cartridges and I have a bunch of revolvers in 44 Mag and can shoot most of them all day but that 77/44 put a hurt on my shoulder and started making me flinchy pretty quick. Maybe I'm just a wuss......

I paid around $650 for mine brand new and it was a nice looking version with a very attractive walnut stock and blued barrel. I liked the looks and loved carrying it around all day out hunting. But in the end other hunting rifles I had were just far more accurate and more comfortable to shoot so I ended up selling it off after a season.

Just my own personal experience - YMMV as they say.
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I have a 77/44 in stainless and black plastic. I also bought mine for deer hunting on days that I am going to either explore or still hunt in the Maine woods. It is light, compact and easy to bring to the shoulder quickly. My typical shots in the woods are well under 100 yds. I put a 2 x 7 scope on it, and bought a Ruger walnut stock from Midway to replace the plastic. I agree that the recoil is heavy. I reload and found that a max load of H110 with a 200 gr Hornaday XTP shot best for me. 100 yd from a sandbag rest with the scope gets 3 shot groupings of around 2.5 to 3 inches, which is good enough for deer hunting at close range. The trigger is not "junky", but it is also not "glassy". It is just fine for hunting. Recoil is pretty stiff with the light gun and quick burning pistol powders. Also, when changing bullet weights and associated velocity there is a huge change in point of impact, around 10 inches going from 200 grain at 2100 fps (highest POI) to 240 grain at 1800 fps to 300 grain at 1500 fps (lowest POI). So find a bullet weight you like and stick with it. It is a great walking around hunting gun, but would be punishing as a plinker. I will keep mine until it is time to pass it down to my grandson. Will download it with Trailboss for him getting started. The Safety is great with the winchester style wing safety that positively locks the firing pin safe when all the way back. I paid around $700 for it new 5 years ago.

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great gun and a good use full gun for hunting defense etc. I would get one they are discontinued so they will go up.
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I'm not a hunter, bought one for plinking, sold it and bought a Rossi 94 in 44mag. Much more fun, not as punishing. My 77/44 action wasn't very smooth either, it didn't feed well. Sold it to a collector.
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It's good but not great, the Rossi 94 out shoots it. Still exploring hand loads and right now Hornady 225 FTP is 2-3 inches at 100yds. No plans on selling as its out of production and I do like the gun.
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I like mine a lot. As others have said it's extremely light and portable and I can carry mine all day. The stainless/synthetic combo makes for a great bad weather rifle and 44mag hits hard enough to take any game in North America. I've owned both a 44mag lever action rifle and a 77/44 and they recoil about the same IMO. I like mine so much I'm actively looking for a 77/357 before they get too scarce. No luck yet.
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I have both the 77/44 and the 77/357. Both are fine guns. Walnut and blued 44 is very attractive and smooth. The 357 is plastic and SS. The 357 version w Amscore ammo is real accurate and shoots very clean.

Rack both of them with "Authority" works best that way w lead rounds.

Get both, you will like them

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Thank you for the input, gentlemen. While the price seemed reasonable with the inclusion of the ammo, I decided to wait for another gun to grab my fancy.
I might regret it, sure, but...well, it wouldn't be the first decision I regretted.
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I don't have the 77/44 but I do have the 77/357. It is a good shooter, probably 2-3" groups at 100 yards with most ammo, Hornady LeveRevolution is closer to an inch. I've only modified mine by shimming the bolt and replacing the trigger springs, but haven't gotten to shoot it more than once or twice since doing that. I use a Nikon Prostaff Rimfire 4x32 scope on mine. It has probably one fired 200 rounds or so. As one poster mentioned, don't be gentle with the bolt, fast yet smooth works best for cycling, slowly racking the bolt causes it to hang up sometimes.

The 77/357 is that one rifle that I always debate on selling, but then never do. Now that it is discontinued, I probably won't because it would be too hard to get back if I regretted it. And it looks so good next to my SP101 Wiley Clapp. If I had a Redhawk or SRH, I would probably want a 77/44 to go with it, so I'll refrain from adding either to my list.
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Hi all .
I have a M77/44 s in camo stainless I did most of last years deer season with it fitted a set of skinner ghost ring sights to it for close scrub work. Its so light and easy to carry. I liked it so much that when I heard that they were stopping production I bought another one and put it away. So now I have two lol..
Trigger isn't perfect but its not garbage either is a kit you can buy that makes is a little slicker to use if need be. I just use mine as it came out of the box. Magazines feed well and as they are so small you can carry a couple of them in your jacket pocket and not notice them. I carry One mag with federal 240 grain fusions and another with Hornady 225 gr ftx just depends where I am in the bush as to what's in the rifle at the time. Being 44 mag there is almost no amount of ammo types you can buy. Start of the warmer months hunting I load one ICI birdshot round in the breech for snakes and just cycle it out if I need to shoot at a deer..
Butt pad screws off with a leather man tool and is hollow you can store a few survival or cleaning items in there as well.
Mine has been accidently dropped under water and later covered by sand in a creek bed its never and I do mean never failed to fire. I do believe come the end of the world they will find an M77/44 somewhere in the ashes under a pile of rubble and it will still work.
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I'm not a hunter, bought one for plinking, sold it and bought a Rossi 94 in 44mag. Much more fun, not as punishing. My 77/44 action wasn't very smooth either, it didn't feed well. Sold it to a collector.
Ugh. I really wanted to get a 77/357 when I saw one in the store. Mainly I liked the idea of scoping it, as well as being able to clean the bore from breech end, as opposed to the Rossi 92 rifles I have owned, which are difficult to scope properly, and are impossible to clean from the breech end.

However, too many lukewarm reviews, spotty QC, and most of all, the high price for these rifles (especially compared to the Rossi guns which run around $200 less for what is qualitatively a superior firearm) scared me off.

I did have the chance to shoot a 77/357 once at a range (they had one as a rental) and was surprised by the amount of recoil it had. Having owned several Rossi's, I was expecting a similar recoil pulse, but the bolt-action Ruger kicked surprisingly hard.
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Ugh. I really wanted to get a 77/357 when I saw one in the store. Mainly I liked the idea of scoping it, as well as being able to clean the bore from breech end, as opposed to the Rossi 92 rifles I have owned, which are difficult to scope properly, and are impossible to clean from the breech end.

However, too many lukewarm reviews, spotty QC, and most of all, the high price for these rifles (especially compared to the Rossi guns which run around $200 less for what is qualitatively a superior firearm) scared me off.

I did have the chance to shoot a 77/357 once at a range (they had one as a rental) and was surprised by the amount of recoil it had. Having owned several Rossi's, I was expecting a similar recoil pulse, but the bolt-action Ruger kicked surprisingly hard.
My Rossi in .357 will shoot sub one inch at 100yds with hand loads and I clean it from the breech with a boar snake. Soon as this weather gets better I will put some work into the 77/44.
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Thoughts on 77/44?

Seems to be a lot of good reviews towards the Rossi 92. I may have to take a closer look at the one my LGS has on the shelf. It may make a nice companion for my 77/357.

I really like my 77/357. I just dont get to shot it enough. If i was lookin for a 44, I wouldnt hesitate to find a 77/44.

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