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Old March 14th, 2017, 11:22 AM   #1
 
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Need opinions pros and cons on this particular muzzle brake... DPMS Muzzle Brake Miculek 5/8"-24 Thread LR-308 Steel Parkerized. I have one of his on my AR15 and I like it. But curious as to if anybody else has one on a .308. So fire away...



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Ask Tacky... Or check out the AR15 thread (he posts in that thread a lot). I'm pretty sure he sings its praises and recommends it.
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A muzzle brake for a .308.................I don't see the point.


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I don't know about the DPMS Miculek brake, but I use this Tacfire brake that I picked up from Optics Planet for $23. Works like a charm. And it looks almost identical to the DPMS brake for less than half the price.

Tacfire .308 5/8inX24 Thread Full Size Muzzle Brake MZ1003-3SS Up To 33% OFF
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Need opinions pros and cons on this particular muzzle brake... DPMS Muzzle Brake Miculek 5/8"-24 Thread LR-308 Steel Parkerized. I have one of his on my AR15 and I like it. But curious as to if anybody else has one on a .308. So fire away...
The miculek is ok, but their are some better options out their. What are you trying to achieve? Less muzzle rise, less recoil? I used to own a miculek on a 308 ar 16" it was ok, but here are some great options.


I have used several different brakes, and comps in just about any caliber imaginable. I have a few favorites that I have found to be the best in recoil reduction, and muzzle rise.

I have one of these, although mine is a clamp on insralled on my savage 111 in 270. (I have pics of mine if you need to see it.) They make a threaded version as well. It totally reduced recoil in my light rifle, and made me more accurate to boot. They can be ordered in 3 different finishes, and for the bore diameter you wish. One of the most effective I have used. If I buy another bolt gun, this is the comp I will use.

Threaded Muzzle Brake Threaded Muzzle Brake [MB3] - $89.00 : Witt Machine

My second favorite which I use on 2 different 308 ar platforms rifles is this one, it reduces recoil, and muzzle rise, and is less blasty as the shark gill style brakes. This one really does a fantastic job. Also available in different finishes and metal types from steel to titanium.

https://gogunusa.com/products/superc...2x51-5-8x24tpi

The third best I have used is the jp bennie cooley. Its very effective at reducing recoil, and muzzle rise. Have one on 24" 308 ar. Its machined well and does a good job, but it is blasty. Its larger profile is sometimes looks out of place, but its shoulder approved.

JP - Tactical Compensators

I feel they are the 3 best i have used, and I have tried atleast 20 different styles from a2's to pws, to jp, and many others. These are what my rifles have on them.




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Ask Tacky... Or check out the AR15 thread (he posts in that thread a lot). I'm pretty sure he sings its praises and recommends it.
Thanks for the recommendation buddy, I do pander alot in muzzle brakes and comps, in particularly the 308. But I do float around every once In a while and check out new threads. But your right I mostly reside in the ar threads.
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I've been happy with Strike Industries King Comp on 308. It is only $40-45 to boot. Cuts enough recoil that kids can shoot it comfortably. A bit loud but I don't have any other 7.62 comps to compare.
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If you look at another forum that has to do with precision rifles and what the pros are using in competition around the US you'll see that the APA Little Bastard is like the 2nd most used brake. I have Surefire Socoms on my AR's......one of them a .308 and they are decent. I tried one on my 6.5 RPR and was like.....meh!

Then I got the APA LB and it is phenomenal. On the mid to long shots you see your bullet strikes.....no hunting for sight picture after recoil.

Another phenomenal brake I have is a Ross Schuler 3 port. Very inexpensive and tames my 20" .308 bolt rifle down to AR-15 felt recoil levels.

If you have the $'s get the APA LB.......no indexing with shims or having a 'smith dial in the threading. The Schuler brake is 1/3rd the price but will require shims or having someone cut the barrel threads to index the brake perfectly. I think I paid my smith $35 to cut the threads but he was also doing other stuff I was paying for.

You will love the Little Bastard.

There are two Y/T videos on muzzle brake tests that should be easy to find.
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I'm already looking for ways to possibly enhance the accuracy of my incoming Compact .308. Tacky, you may have solved my problem. I have a tech question into Ruger to see if I can have the sporter profile barrel threaded. But if not, your suggestion from Witt Machinery may be just the ticket. It might not be as asthetically pleasing, but if it cuts the recoil without opening the groups it'll keep me from cutting it. Not recoil sensitive at all, just faster to get back on target if needed.
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I'm already looking for ways to possibly enhance the accuracy of my incoming Compact .308. Tacky, you may have solved my problem. I have a tech question into Ruger to see if I can have the sporter profile barrel threaded. But if not, your suggestion from Witt Machinery may be just the ticket. It might not be as asthetically pleasing, but if it cuts the recoil without opening the groups it'll keep me from cutting it. Not recoil sensitive at all, just faster to get back on target if needed.
I am glad I could help. I was skeptical, about its effectiveness. But after using it on my savage 111 in 270 win it did an outstanding job. The savage 111 is very light being a hunting rifle, and had the bad habit of jumping around on the bench. So I ordered a witt machine custom. The bore is setup for a .277 bullet. You basically measure the barrel diameter at the muzzle with micrometers, record it, then measure it 1 inch from the muzzle. When you order specify the caliber, and measurements, and finish. Think mine took a week. I used loctite blue on the screws, and a bit on the barrel. It has not moved and is a tight fit. It no longer feels like a 5lb 270 recoiling, more like a 223 remy. Plus witt has a 100% guarantee, if your not satisfied, the refund you 100% no questions asked. If your muzzle is not threaded, this is the best option I have found, that does exactly as it says. My best with it is under .500" at 100 yards with the 140 accubond handload. Here is my 270 with a witt machine clamp on.





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Welcome to the forum. I dont have one, Looks like Tacky fixed you up.
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i fitted a PWS TRIAD Flash Suppressor to my RPR 308 sadly it did not calm the jump or curb the blast as i much as hoped and it affected the rifles POI so its off now but the new RPR comes with brake fitted so prolly better tuned to the rifle & barrel not just screwed on
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Thanks again Tacky! It may take me a bit to get everything spooled up. I am new to the Macon/Warner Robins area and there isn't a range near me. So even when I get her ready, there may be a delay in getting the new girl dancing. You're the bomb diggity!!
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i fitted a PWS TRIAD Flash Suppressor to my RPR 308 sadly it did not calm the jump or curb the blast as i much as hoped and it affected the rifles POI so its off now but the new RPR comes with brake fitted so prolly better tuned to the rifle & barrel not just screwed on
2296, I had a similar experience with my pws. I have a ptr 91k, 16" carbine in 308 win. Well it had a standard a2 birdcage, but I was wanting to keep the barrel down for repeated shots. Not many comps on the market are 15x1RH threaded. So after researching I bought a pws fsc91. After installing it and firing it, it does work better than the a2 with flash and rise, but not as much as I would have liked or expected. Its no where near as effective as some of the other comps and brakes I use. I have not replaced it, but that may happen eventually. It does look aggressive though.

I feel the video of the full auto 6.8 is a bit misleading. I own several 5.56 and a 6.8 spc carbine, and they both feel the same with firing, same recoil, jump, etc. So just because its a bigger caliber, it has no extra recoil energy or muzzle rise. Matter of fact if I handed you both to shoot, without telling you the caliber, you would not be able to differentiate.

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Thanks again Tacky! It may take me a bit to get everything spooled up. I am new to the Macon/Warner Robins area and there isn't a range near me. So even when I get her ready, there may be a delay in getting the new girl dancing. You're the bomb diggity!!
Awesome, I am sure you will approve of it, it really is a great device. They make them for pencil barrels up to 1" barrels. I believe they even make ones for shotgun use which would help if shooting 3" slugs. As always glad I could help, another shooter enjoy the sport more. Remember to add pics when you get it complete. Also the black cerakote finish matchs blued barrels thats what mine is.
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