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Old February 4th, 2017, 03:51 PM   #1
 
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I am in the market for a bolt-action .22 LR. the contenders are the marlin xt22tr, cz 455 training model, and of course the RAR .22...
I looked at a bunch of you-tube videos which helped me to eliminate the savage mk2 from the list...

I will add a scope. because apparently getting older and wiser costs you your good vision. and i'm not necessarily "hunting" but I wouldn't bring your pet squirrel over. mostly longer range targeting and making steel go ding...

seems as within the RAR choices, the target model (18" barrel) is the only ruger threaded for a suppressor out of the box, but it is also 4" shorter in barrel length than the standard synthetic, and the wood stock (22" barrels).

-why is the "target" model 4" shorter, and threaded for suppressor? why call it the target model, at all?

btw,
-the marlin's advantage is that it will fire 22LR, 22 short, and also 22 long (22" barrel)
-the cz, may be the best of quality and accuracy, (24.875" barrel) and can add/change out the barrel to .22 magnum. but, it's also at least a hundred bucks more...

any thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated,
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I really wanted the 18" model when they first came out, but was impatient and bought the first one I could find, which happened to be a 22" model.

I put a cheap ($60) Simmons 3-9x power scope on it and it can totally wipe out a 1 inch bullseye at 30 yards.

I am sure expert shooters will tell you they can get a lot better performance out of a CZ or some other brand, but I am a recreational plinker and for the price it has been a great little .22 for me.

Only thing is, I still want the 18" model!
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-why is the "target" model 4" shorter, and threaded for suppressor? why call it the target model, at all?

btw,
-the marlin's advantage is that it will fire 22LR, 22 short, and also 22 long (22" barrel)
-the cz, may be the best of quality and accuracy, (24.875" barrel) and can add/change out the barrel to .22 magnum. but, it's also at least a hundred bucks more...


- Longer bbl doesn't equate to better accuracy and with the 22lr, the standard length is in the 16 -18" bbl lengths. Even the VERY top most biathlon rifles are in the 18-20" lengths. Remember as well what minute performance may be gained or lost, it also depends a LOT on the ammo as well.

- Think realistically...when was the last time you thought about shooting the 22 long and 22 short cartridges? See them on the shelves lately?

- If you're after nothing but a squirrel, the 22lr will more than suffice so at least on that, the 22 magnum capability would have no bearing on my decision making. However...those CZ's are nice.
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I have a very old Marlin, shot silhouette with it many years ago. Pulled the old little 1.5x scope off and bumped to a 4x Nikon a couple of years ago. Great shooting 22.
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i have eliminated the cz from my choices just because of the high price.

and after looking and reading more, I find the RAR target model although is a shorter barrel at 18" than the standard model it has a "target" barrel for increased accuracy. is this target barrel, a "bull barrel"?

that and the laminate wooden stock on the target model is fine looking...

the RAR, is looking like the better choice for me so far.

has anyone had one of these in their hands, to confirm the "bull barrel"?

I can only find online info and pics...
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Saw the RAR with threaded barrel on sale for $199 way back when and bought it on a whim. Stuck a $15 3x scope on it. My son loves it. We can pop ballons easily to 300 ft (length of our range) and make small groups with it. All suppressed of course.

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I have the longer barrel and a Simmons cheepo on it. Great rifle, wish it was shorter. Showed it to my daughter today. She got het dibs on it, likes cookin squirrel

Buy the RAR
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I have owned the CZ453, 77-22 Ruger, Savage 93F and Marlin XT rimfires in both .22 LR and .22 WMR. The CZ 453/455 series beats all of them hands down for accuracy. I have not tried the Ruger American as they just came out with the .22 WMR version recently. I am trying to make a decision on whether to try the American or stick with the CZ which I know is very accurate. The CZ does cost a little more than the Ruger American but I know the CZ's are very accurate?
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I am in the market for a bolt-action .22 LR. the contenders are the marlin xt22tr, cz 455 training model, and of course the RAR .22...
I looked at a bunch of you-tube videos which helped me to eliminate the savage mk2 from the list...

I will add a scope. because apparently getting older and wiser costs you your good vision. and i'm not necessarily "hunting" but I wouldn't bring your pet squirrel over. mostly longer range targeting and making steel go ding...

seems as within the RAR choices, the target model (18" barrel) is the only ruger threaded for a suppressor out of the box, but it is also 4" shorter in barrel length than the standard synthetic, and the wood stock (22" barrels).

-why is the "target" model 4" shorter, and threaded for suppressor? why call it the target model, at all?

btw,
-the marlin's advantage is that it will fire 22LR, 22 short, and also 22 long (22" barrel)
-the cz, may be the best of quality and accuracy, (24.875" barrel) and can add/change out the barrel to .22 magnum. but, it's also at least a hundred bucks more...

any thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated,
thanks
May I ask why the snub for Savage?
I have a Mk2 that is the most accurate 22 rifle I own. Never had any problem with it.
I also have a CZ 452 Varmint that is almost as consistent as the Savage accuracy but cost about $200 more.

regards, Rob
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the 22 lr cz i have is a mannlicher style bolt action I like that style of rifle.
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truth is, I eliminated the savage from my list while marathon-ing you-tube videos...
other peoples reviews, and comparisons...
and honestly now I don't recall the specifics, as to why... sorry.

the cz's are hands down, the finer and superior pieces. but, it's only $$$

I think ruger is on top for it's quality and versatility of performance and aftermarket options...

but, for now it seems to be unavailable for purchase...
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I bought a RAR model 08334 and believe its a great little shooter. I like it most b/c of the short, heavy, 18", threaded barrel. It has a weaver style optic rail and the optional butt stock configurations. Its a good teaching tool for my kidos too.

(Now Im wanting to see what happens with the NFA tax stamp on suppressors...but thats a different topic... sorry)
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I bought a RAR model 08334 and believe its a great little shooter. I like it most b/c of the short, heavy, 18", threaded barrel. It has a weaver style optic rail and the optional butt stock configurations. Its a good teaching tool for my kidos too.

(Now Im wanting to see what happens with the NFA tax stamp on suppressors...but thats a different topic... sorry)
the #8334 model's specs don't list it as having the same .860" heavy bull barrel, like the target model #8348. mind if I ask your purchase price?

the target model #8348 RAR has my interest.
and I am not finding it available for purchase anywhere...

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It was just over 300 out the door.


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