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Old February 4th, 2017, 01:32 PM   #1
 
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Can New Ruger Gunsite Scout Shoot 7.62x51 ?

Hello, new here, just picked up a New .308 Scout and was wondering if anyone knows if i can shoot 7.62x51 through it....Some places say its the same but looking for someone who really knows....Thanks for any and all help....



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Old February 4th, 2017, 02:48 PM   #2
 
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did you read the owners manual for it?

From Wikipedia

"The .308 Winchester (pronounced: "three-oh-eight" or "three-aught-eight") is a rimless, bottlenecked rifle cartridge and is the commercial cartridge from which the 7.6251mm NATO round was derived. The .308 Winchester was introduced in 1952, two years prior to the NATO adoption of the 7.6251mm NATO T65."

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The product information and caliber marked on the barrel say 308 Winchester.
On page 12 in the owners manual it states this model rifle is chambered for two rounds :
308 Winchester and .223 Remington/5.56 NATO. Since the 223 chambering is listed as 223 Rem./5.56 NATO and the 308 Winchester is not shown with the NATO designation , it appears that the rifle should only be fired with 308 Win. and not fired with 7.62X51 NATO ammo. Do not have a reason for this and possibly an Email to Ruger might clear this up.

I had thought the two rounds were interchangeable , but perhaps not. I wonder why the .223 was made to handle the NATO round but the 308 was not ?
Until a Ruger clears this up , I would just shoot 308 win. in it.
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one box okay not regularly in a 308 chamber. 7.62x51 has thicker case walls and somewhat higher pressure than 308
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one box okay not regularly in a 308 chamber. 7.62x51 has thicker case walls and somewhat higher pressure than 308
Good to know !
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9751mm_NATO

I would shoot both. But you might want to read this link, and call Ruger.
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The general rule, as I understand it, is you can safely fire 7.62x51 in any currently produced rifle chambered in .308.

Second, Ruger bolt action rifles are stronger than the M-14, the rifle the 7.62x51 was designed for.

Third, Ruger has a long standing reputation for making guns that are stronger than they need to be.

Lastly, the Scout is an M77, a proven design that Ruger has been making for decades. It has a long track record, and most certainly is not reputed to be weak.
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Yes you can shoot 7.62x51 in the Ruger GSR.

Mike Fifer, CEO of Ruger Firearms while discussing other topics, was asked if it was safe to shoot 7.62mm in the Gunsite. He responded in the affirmative that it was safe to do so. Some surplus 7.62x51 is not the best quality however, i.e. magtech 7.62x51 made a batch of brass that had too thick of a rim that would cause problems when trying to chamber a round in the 77 action.

You can shoot 7.62x51 in any bolt action chambered for 308. The previous poster was mistaken, the 308 is the higher pressure of the two.

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Yes you can shoot 7.62x51 in the Ruger GSR.

Mike Fifer, CEO of Ruger Firearms while discussing other topics, was asked if it was safe to shoot 7.62mm in the Gunsite. He responded in the affirmative that it was safe to do so. Some surplus 7.62x51 is not the best quality however, i.e. magtech 7.62x51 made a batch of brass that had too thick of a rim that would cause problems when trying to chamber a round in the 77 action.

You can shoot 7.62x51 in any bolt action chambered for 308. The previous poster was mistaken, the 308 is the higher pressure of the two.
^^ This^^ Several hundred rounds of 7.62x51 downrange in my GSR, Works fine....
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It never occurred to me not to shoot 7.62x51 through my GSR. About half of what I've shot through it at the range has been Austrian milsurp stuff that is considered "hot" from what I've read. No issues, gun handles it easily.
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one box okay not regularly in a 308 chamber. 7.62x51 has thicker case walls and somewhat higher pressure than 308
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The thick wall rumor continues, now over another cartridge.
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Thanks for all your help on this guys...!
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Only problems I've ever seen that were run into was in semi-automatic rifles. Most fail to function properly and don't eject the NATO rounds due to the lower pressure.
Any bolt action .308 should operate fine so long as the round fits in the chamber (being as it's .308 or 7.62).

General rule:
Rifle chambered in 7.62 - can you shoot .308? No.
Rifle chambered in .308 - can you shoot 7.62? Yes.

Rifle chambered in 5.56 - can you shoot .223? Yes.
Rifle chambered in .223 - can you shoot .556? No.

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Only problems I've ever seen that were run into was in semi-automatic rifles. Most fail to function properly and don't eject the NATO rounds due to the lower pressure.
Any bolt action .308 should operate fine so long as the round fits in the chamber (being as it's .308 or 7.62).

General rule:
Rifle chambered in 7.62 - can you shoot .308? No.
Rifle chambered in .308 - can you shoot 7.62? Yes.

Rifle chambered in 5.56 - can you shoot .223? Yes.
Rifle chambered in .223 - can you shoot .556? No.
Thanks for the info.....
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