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Old May 5th, 2010, 05:52 PM   #1
 
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New guy here who's decided that I am really into pistol-caliber carbines. I already have a Marlin 1984c in .357 Mag and a Hi-Point 995 in 9mm. So I'm now looking at the 77/44 to round things out (so to speak). Any thoughts from this group, especially on accuracy, trigger pull, and stock? (I searched here and saw the recent thread on a scope for a 77/44 but no reviews). There are none around here to look at, so any help would be appreciated!



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Old May 6th, 2010, 06:59 AM   #2
 
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Snakeguy, Years ago I had an early production 77/44. I loved everything it about except the accuracy. I am an avid hand loader and could not get it to shoot to my satisfaction (under 2" @ 100yds). It did shoot close to that with Speer 270 grain factory ammo, but that stuff is expensive. I have regretted selling the carbine ever since. Soooo, I just bought a new current production 77/44. I am waiting to get the scope rings from Ruger ( they sent HIGH rings with the gun and I want low rings), so I can start load development. I have many bullets and powders to test. If this one will shoot 3" @ 100yds, that will be exceptable to me. After I find my most accurate loads, I will install a Burris Fastfire II sight on it. I can not think of a better handling, lighter, deadlier carbine for hog hunting than the 77/44. The handling and weight feels like a fine single barrel 410 shotgun. If you look up the word "Pointability" in the dictionary, there should be a picture of a Ruger model 77/44.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 08:41 AM   #3
 
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They are plenty accurate to hunt medium game at the ranges a 44 will give you. No problem. Triggers aren't great, but not terrible and They can be improved.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 11:11 AM   #4
 
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Right, Bigweatherby. The trigger on this new 77/44 released at about 8 pounds. I bought a Volquartsen sear and spring kit for $33 and change from Midway and the trigger now releases at 1.5 to 1.75 pounds. I know that is a bit light for hunting but I figure after load development, I'll probably swap the factory spring or another slightly lighter spring into it for a 2.5 to 3 pound pull.
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Thanks!

Thanks to all for the responses. Sounds like a great carbine.

Rj: can you tell me which sear and spring set you got from Midway. A 3 lb pull sounds just about right for what I do.
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It's Midways product # 158267, Volquartsen sear and spring. Price is $34.99 but the site says they are out of stock right now, but back orders are ok, so they must have some coming soon. It is super easy to install.
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Thanks. My gunsmith is backed up a month anyway, so I can hope Midway gets them in before then
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I bought one around 2000. Havent shot it much but I did have a few 3 inch groups with open sights at 100 yds. I hate the 3 position safety, but other than that its a nice little carbine.
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The anticipation is killing me. I have my hand loads loaded up for my new 77/44 and still have not received my replacement scope rings from Ruger. They received my original rings on the 29th, so I am hoping to get them this week. If I don't receive them this week, I don't know when I will get a chance to shoot this rifle. I am returning to work from 6 months of medical leave and for at least the next three months, I will be working 10 hours a day 5 days a week and some weekends too!
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That would kill me too, Rj. Can't imagine anything more frustrating than a new rifle (or new loads), nice weather, and no time to shoot.

Can you use the iron sights to at least try your handloads? What loads are you using by the way?
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I like light trigger pulls even for hunting. The only bad thing is if you have not been able to practice with the gun first, you might touch it off premature. However, its nice to be able to squeeze it lightly and place the bullet in the vitals. 3 lbs is about right but lighter would be fine.

I have a 96/44 that I love, but a 77 would be one heck of a hunting arm too. I think I would feel more comfortable shooting max loads through the 77.
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Snake guy, I really want to check the loads with a scope. I will be trying 180 grain Hornady XTP's, 225 grain Hornady FXT's (Lever Revolution bullet) and Speer 240 grain Gold Dot SP's with near max doses of Li'l Gun powder to start with. If those loads don't shoot well, I'll start trying heavier bullets, maybe Speer 270 grain Gold Dots.
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With the longer barrel, you ought to be able to push those heavy bullets pretty good. Its gonna be a powerful little rifle!
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I just picked up a new All-Weather 77/44 this week. Put a Nikon 2-7X32 Prostaff on it. Shot it today for the first time and was happy with the 2-3 inch groups @ 100 yards I got shooting off bags. 240 grain XTPs over 23 grains of H110. Gonna hafta do sumthin' about the trigger tho....
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I'm mounting an older Nikon 2x7x32 on mine for load testing. I hope to shoot it on Wednesday. I'll report how it goes. 460, you can fix that trigger for $34 and change (+ shipping).
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