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Old December 21st, 2016, 09:01 PM   #1
 
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Question Help! Boyd's Stock Ruger American Rifle-what will fit?

I purchased a brand-new Boyd's laminate stock (3ZA984C041ZZ) for a RAR 30-06. Unfortunately, I no longer own this rifle but I have this brand-new stock. Can anyone tell me what other rifle actions will work with this specific stock? I am interested in a 6.5 Creedmore but don't know if that's a long action or short action and is compatible. I would also have an interest in 243, 270 or 300 Win Mag. I just need to make sure that any of these fit with the stock that I ordered from Boyd's

Thanks for any help you can provide.



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Old December 22nd, 2016, 06:16 AM   #2
 
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The 6.5 Creedmoor is a short action. (As is the 243)...so they are out.
The 270 may fit, if you got it in the American.Possibly with very little work to be done, if any.
The 300 Win Mag may fit, but the stock will surely have to be sanded down, or remove wood some how.
I am not sure if I would want to run the risk of ruining a good stock, it mat be better to just try and sale it.....and recoup some money for a new one for what ever gun you buy.

When in doubt call Boyd's...they could tell you what would work.

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I have some experience with Boyd's stocks, specifically with American rifles. And I have lots of experience with American rifles - I own 4. I can pair that with my knowledge of the calibers you mentioned, and the only two rifles that your stock will work on are a 270 or a 30-06. They would both have to be Ruger Americans.
I am not including any limited edition or distributor exclusive model of the American or American Predator that you may be able to find. For instance, an American Predator chambered in 25-06, which I've seen, would accept this stock.
As for the magnum calibers, that is a different rifle designed to take different magazines than both the long action and the short action. So no go on that one either.
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Hi Folks,

Thank you for the great posts about epoxying the "V-Blocks" of an Ruger American Rifle into a Boyd's laminated stock. It is very helpful.

Recently, I have been researching Boyd's Hardwood Rifle Stocks. I found several very good YouTube videos about Boyd's stocks for the Ruger American Rifle models. The laminated stocks look very cool. Most owners really liked their new stocks. Only one guy was not happy with the delivery time (as I recall, it took about 5 or 6 months for his stock to arrive).

I finally decided to buy a Boyd's walnut stock for my .243 caliber Ruger American Predator Rifle last month. It arrived about two weeks later. The instruction sheet said to "dry assemble" the stock to see if everything fits and to call Boyd's customer service department if there is a problem. I tried to "dry assemble" the stock and receiver/barrel without forcing anything. Unfortunately, I have a "fitting" problem. I called Boyd's customer service department. They wanted me to send some pictures. I did. They wanted more pictures so I sent more (some side by side comparisons of the original stock versus the walnut stock). Later they wrote the following:

It looks like you could have a different variation from what was ordered. I have included some measurements below for what you ordered. Please compare them to your original to determine if what you ordered is what you are needing.
Barrel Dimensions: Point A = 1 1/64" and Point B = 3/4"
Center to Center of Action Screws: 4 3/64"
Over All Length of Part: 31 1/2"

I had no idea where "Point A" or "Point B" are on the rifle barrel. I assumed Point B was close to the muzzle (my rifle's barrel is close to 3/4 inch in diameter at the muzzle), my rifle's center to center of actions screws is 4.044 inches which is about a difference of 0.002 to 0.003 inches. I suspect there is that much slop in the V-Blocks. My original plastic stock is about 2 inches shorter than the walnut stock (the extra length of the walnut stocks forearm is not a problem to me). I get the feeling I am getting the old run around.

The real problem is that the inlet cut out for the trigger housing needs a little more wood removed. I only have a few hand tools and sand paper. Nevertheless, I think I could do the job with a triangle or rat tail file but that would void the 90 day warranty.

I have uploaded a few these photos to Google. They mostly show my new Boyd's walnut stock and the trigger housing problem. The link to these pictures follows:

goo.gl/photos/dMqUhfdorwdLHaa88

Just hi-lite the above link, copy it (ctrl C), and paste it (ctrl V) into your browser's URL address box.

I would appreciate your suggestions and comments.

Thank You,
Ron
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I would sell the stock and start over.
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I would sell the stock and start over.
Yes then get a stock for a short action.
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Hi Folks,

Thank you for all the suggestions and comments. I appreciate it.

This is a follow up to my problem of fitting my Ruger American Predator Rifle to a Boyd’s stock.

It is hard to put a square peg into a smaller round hole. So, I decided to break out my triangle and rat tail files and to carefully remove small amounts of wood from the half circular hole in the trigger inlet area and to eventually turn it into a rectangular hole. I wanted to keep as much wood as possible. So, I tested the fit of the trigger housing after each incremental wood reduction. I was pretty sure that the amount of wood to be removed would be much less than suggested by the comparable area of the original stock. I thought I would probably need to remove some wood from the left side of the trigger inlet area so the safety tang’s connection rod and mechanism would move freely, and maybe even a tiny bit of wood at the front to allow for the trigger tension screw.

I have uploaded a few photos to Google. Cut and Paste the link below in your browser's address box:

goo.gl/photos/smjj2Exv7ZwiyZMb7

Thank you,
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Hi Folks,

I finally got around to epoxying the V-Blocks into the factory supplied inlets for them. I was worried about getting them into the proper positions without the epoxy running into the various holes and parts of the rifle. I got a lot of good information about doing this job from YouTube tutorials. Thank you YouTube.

The Boyd's stock was supposed to be walnut. The original stock had almost no visible grain or figuring. The most obvious were just barely noticeable near the end of the forearm and at the bottom of the pistol grip. The factory finish probably was hiding most of the features and flaws of the walnut stump or branch wood. So, I decided to remove the factory finish to see what was really there.

Again I went to YouTube and reviewed how other folks have re-finished their wooden stocks. I used a water base paint stripper called “Lift Off” to soften up the factory’s final coat. I sanded the stock with 320 grit paper down to the surface of the wood. I used several applications of “Krud Kutter” to remove the soaked in stain. I flushed the "Krud Kutter" with lots of hot water. I let the stock had dried a few days. I applied three coats of “Tru-Oil” over a few more days. The "Tru-Oil" was very glossy. I tried to give the stock a satin finish by lightly rubbing it with very fine steel wool.

Now… the underlying walnut grain and figuring are much more visible. Below is the link to a few photographs of the re-finished stock. Most of the close-up shots are slightly over exposed. This made the stock’s basic color a little lighter than it would normally appear. The photo of the complete stock is more typical of its basic color.

I have uploaded a few photos to Google. Cut and Paste the link below in your browser's address box:

goo.gl/photos/gY6oQ2jUQHyjWd6x9

Thanks for all the suggestions,
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IMO I would not have used anything to bed it, when the v Blocks between rifle and stock are properly torqued it is as good as it will ever be....
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