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This is a discussion on Problems with Ruger American within the Ruger Bolt Action forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; Originally Posted by edteach All I can say is my LGS said they will not carry the RA. They have had too many problems. Wow. ...


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Old February 17th, 2016, 07:27 PM   #46
 
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All I can say is my LGS said they will not carry the RA. They have had too many problems.
Wow. Too bad for them. They are missing out on a lot of sales of a great rifle that is in high demand.



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Old April 22nd, 2016, 05:38 PM   #47
 
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RAR Accuracy Problem

I agree that there is something wrong with this rifle.
QC was definitely a problem on the RAR 30-06 that I got in Jan. But after honing out some burrs inside the receiver I have been able to shoot some nice groups putting 2 rounds in one hole at 175 yards with about one minute between shots.

Still trying different ammo to see what it likes best.
It really sucks to have to work on a brand new rifle but you get what you pay for and this rifle was very low cost for what it is.
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Old May 11th, 2016, 05:17 PM   #48
 
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May 11. Guessing this thread is dead. Have read all of it, and saw no consensus.

I'm going to buy a RAR(anch) in .223, regardless. Maybe luck of the draw,
but my SR9c convinced me of Ruger quality.

I don't mind doing work on a new rifle. When I bought my 2007 Marlin 336 in .30-30 (with a JM stamp),
I took it down to the last screw and honed the action. Took me a week. Result: smooth as butter.

Now I'm selling that rifle to buy a RAR(anch). I'll give it the same care right up front.
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I did a lot of reading before I bought my Ruger American Predator. The original Ruger American Rifle has numerous reports of poor accuracy when the barrel warms up. I believe that's why Ruger came out with the heavy-barreled Predator and is exactly why I bought that line instead. I almost didn't as the Predator in 308 has only an 18" barrel, but now I see that it begs to be suppressed. That's an entirely different adventure.

With my Predator at 100 yards I was easily getting 1" groups and less with a solid rest, using all brands and weights of ammo. I can still get 1" groups with cheap PMC Bronze ammo. I would shoot, chamber another round, take my timing sighting it in -- anywhere from 15 - 30 seconds between shots. The rifle didn't string at all. Good groups no matter the heat of the barrel.

It's unrealistic to except consistent, prolonged 1 MOA out of the original RAR as it wasn't designed for that and reports reinforce that. The heavier barrel of the Predator makes all the difference.

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I did a lot of reading before I bought my Ruger American Predator. The original Ruger American Rifle has numerous reports of poor accuracy when the barrel warms up. I believe that's why Ruger came out with the heavy-barreled Predator and is exactly why I bought that line instead. I almost didn't as the Predator in 308 has only an 18" barrel, but now I see that it begs to be suppressed.

My predator 308 is a 22" barrel?
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My predator 308 is a 22" barrel?
ruger lists all of the predator's having 22" barrels except the 308 is listed as having an 18" barrel.

ruger lists the standard american 308 as a 22" barrel
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I know, I seen that on their website when I was researching which 308 to purchase. That turned me away from the predator 308 until I put it in my hands at the gun store. It must be a misprint on the website because mine is 22".
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Barring any necessary adjustments in your scope and/or rings; it doesn't sound like you tried to group your rounds at all. Instead of chasing your zero, why not first shoot a 5-shot group without changing your settings or POA. Only then can you identify that the rifle doesn't seem to like that particular ammo.

You should then verify this with one or more different rounds and see if those group any better. If the other rounds do end up grouping better, then change the recipe on your first (reloaded) rounds and try again. You may have to change more than your powder charge (ie: primer, bullet, powder type, OAL, crimp, etc.). This is what reloading allows us to do - find the perfect combination that your rifle loves and stick to it.

You should eventually find a cartridge your rifle likes. Cooking up a particular round and expecting any rifle to like it is unrealistic. The resulting Internal Ballistics between a rifle and ammunition is pretty much VOODOO.
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I know, I seen that on their website when I was researching which 308 to purchase. That turned me away from the predator 308 until I put it in my hands at the gun store. It must be a misprint on the website because mine is 22".
or maybe it's something ruger changed early on. I saw one at a shop with a few other caliber predators and the 308 there did have a shorter barrel than the rest.
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I had a problem with military, reloaded cases sticking in the chamber (even loaded to minimum pressure)and broke the bolt extractor trying to hammer a stuck case out. I contacted Ruger and they sent me a shipping label and RMA #. I hated the idea of sending the whole rifle back, why can't I just send the bolt? Anyway, I expected a 4-6 week wait at minimum and it must have taken 3 or 4 days for them to replace the bolt, polish out the chamber and test fire the rifle. I haven't shot it yet but I sure do thank Ruger for their professional handling of this problem and speedy return of my rifle. I will be a Ruger fan from now on.
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I have the same story. I'm blaming ammunition, and will never shoot steel case again. I'd add to the details of the story, but they are virtually identical. The only difference is that the case head separated from the case when it was fired.
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I shot the rifle for the first time since I got it back from Ruger and it was smooth as silk. I am one happy camper. All it needed was a chamber polish.
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^ That's so good to read.
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After reading all this I didn't see anyone say anything about that cheap bolt. Noisey is not even close to what I hear. I would not use that gun in the elk woods for anything. Sent back to Ruger but I'm becoming more scared of what that gun won't do then what it will do.
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