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Old January 27th, 2016, 03:25 PM   #31
 
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I received a call from Ruger today. I was told that the gun was fine and it shoots excellent groups at 50 yards. After 2 scopes and different factory and hand loads I will give it one more try. When I get it back I will return the scope to Walmart and then go buy another one to make sure its not the scope for a third try. If I get the same 6 inch group at 100 yards then its off to the auction house with this dog. If Ruger says its good then I have no obligation to tell a potential buyer anything different. If its me I have no idea on what to do. Maybe this gun is just not for me. I will give it a last try to see if its the scope but if not than I have no idea what is going on. Maybe nothing and maybe Rugers so called good grouping is very liberal. Maybe the rifle does not like all the different ammo I am trying. I really don't know. Ruger was not much help but if it is by some strange deal the scope I can understand that they can not find it but if not I am lost on what is going on. I know the first thing to always blame is the user. But I have been on several boards and taken all the advice but the most outlandish and tried it. Different ammo, factory and hand loads, different scopes, tightened the rails, the rings. It should not be nor has it in the many rifles I have used ever been that hard to zero in a rifle. If anyone has any ideas I am all ears.
It really sucks to get a lemon that the factory won't take care of. It does create a moral dilemma for you. I wonder if there is any way you can talk to the tech and find out the circumstances of their test firing.



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Old January 27th, 2016, 03:27 PM   #32
 
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It really sucks to get a lemon that the factory won't take care of. It does create a moral dilemma for you. I wonder if there is any way you can talk to the tech and find out the circumstances of their test firing.
I will talk to the tech tomorrow. See what he has to say
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Try and find out what ammo they use to bench test the rifle.
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Old February 1st, 2016, 07:22 AM   #34
 
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They used 168 gr standard black hills. He said they use what ever it is they can get ahold of and this was what they had. They recrowned it and it should be here on Thursday. I was told that they found a burr on the crown.
They were getting flyers also.
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I put new scopes on 2 of my American rifles. I bore sighted them that day, and just today I went and fired them to zero them in. I was on paper at 100 yds with the first shot, and 6 rounds later on one and 8 rounds later on the other, I was consistently hitting the bullseye with both rifles. This is the same experience I had with the previous scopes on these two rifles as well. They are just plain good shooters. Sucks that you might have gotten a bad one or are chasing some unknown problem.
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Burr on the crown would do it. Lotta great groups are shot with a keyboard. Mine will shoot but it's kinda touchy about how you rest it off. It's sure not a target rifle.
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Please don't forget to give us an update on this rifle. I hate it when a thread leaves us hanging.
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My issue was my Predator 6.5 Creedmoor was headspace. I found this out after 4 case head separations in once fired reloads. Order LE Wilson case gage and it turned out the fired cases were sticking out of the gage .009" way too much. As I own a mill and a lathe I made a barrel nut wrench, ordered a "GO" an "NOGO" gages from midway and sure enough the bolt easily closed on the no go gage. I loosened the barrel nut reset the barrel and it has not ruined a case yet. How ever I started only neck sizing the cases for that gun. Oh and there is the damned rotary mag that is 40 bucks, of made by mattel plastic that sometimes functions..but that is another story. I tried to contact Ruger but the explanantion text box cut me off of half of my findings so they responded that hey didn't understand my complaint..
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Well here are the results. I used 168 and 150 grain several variations. I used bipod, lead sled and sand bags. After getting my rifle back from Ruger it did help. The groups I was getting was in the 6 in range. This has been cut in about half. At 100 yards I was getting about 3 inch groups. It did not seem to matter what the ammo or rest I used. I am at a loss and have decided that this gun is just not for me. I will chalk it up to me and the gun do not seem to work together. I don't want to blame the gun. Ruger said that they were getting shots through the same hole at 50 yards. I have now tried three scopes and several types of ammo and three different rests. I think its time to sell it and maybe go with the Savage or Remington.
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Well here are the results. I used 168 and 150 grain several variations. I used bipod, lead sled and sand bags. After getting my rifle back from Ruger it did help. The groups I was getting was in the 6 in range. This has been cut in about half. At 100 yards I was getting about 3 inch groups. It did not seem to matter what the ammo or rest I used. I am at a loss and have decided that this gun is just not for me. I will chalk it up to me and the gun do not seem to work together. I don't want to blame the gun. Ruger said that they were getting shots through the same hole at 50 yards. I have now tried three scopes and several types of ammo and three different rests. I think its time to sell it and maybe go with the Savage or Remington.
Have you gotten a friend to try it and see if they are getting the same results?
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Have you gotten a friend to try it and see if they are getting the same results?
No but it really does not matter. If it does not shoot well for me and its great for the next guy then it still has to go. I ended up buying a new Rem 700 SPS Varmint from Buds. Rem has a 50 dollar rebate.
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No but it really does not matter. If it does not shoot well for me and its great for the next guy then it still has to go. I ended up buying a new Rem 700 SPS Varmint from Buds. Rem has a 50 dollar rebate.
Nice. Let us know how it goes. Sorry to hear about the Ruger, but that is how the ol' cookie crumbles sometimes...
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I can tell you that My American in 308 is very finicky when it comes down to the ammo it likes. I started shooting Remington 150 gr. core loks and it hated them. I talked to my Gunsmith showed him the targets and he recommended Hornady 168gr BTHP and I have been a happy camper. I reloaded them with 42 grn IMR 3031 and got .5 inch groups at 100 yds. I got my wife an American in 308 this year and I am getting the same kind of groups with it the first 5 shots at 50 yds were all touching.
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Old February 17th, 2016, 04:02 PM   #44
 
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All I can say is my LGS said they will not carry the RA. They have had too many problems. I have my replacement a Remington 700 SPS Varmint in 308 coming in and hope this will shoot tight groups.
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Sucks Man I have 3 RA's 2 308's and 1 223 all shoot well with Hornady ammo. I am going to get a Boyd's stock for all of them eventually.
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