This is a discussion on Who says M77's are crap???? within the Ruger Bolt Action forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; I'd like to TRY and put something to bed once and for all, I've heard it said time and again that Ruger M77's are not ...
I'd like to TRY and put something to bed once and for all, I've heard it said time and again that Ruger M77's are not acurate, and have bad triggers. First off Im a good shot, not the best, far from it, and I have three centerfire bolt guns, a Savage model-12 varmiter with a Nikon Buckmaster 6-18 scope, Bell&Carlson Medalist stock, and Harris bi-pod in 22-250 , a Savage FP-10 with a factory installed HS precision stock, Nikon Monarch 6-20 scope, and a Harris bi-pod in .308, and a Ruger KM77VT, with a Pentax Lightseeker 30mm, 8-32 scope, and a Harris bi-pod. All three of these guns will shoot far better than I, Both Savages are real tac drivers, I've shot 3/8" groups @100yrds with both guns, and in the right hands they can top that easily, but they're Savages, they're supposed to, right? Now my lowly poor old Ruger is'nt supposed to come anywhere near these two savages, right? I mean thats what everyone says, well as far as acuracy goes, I own and shoot all three rifles, and that poor ol inacurate Ruger shoots 1/2" groups @100 yrds consistantly!!! Wait a minute, that can't be, everybody says that Rugers can't shoot well, infact they are out right terrible in the acuracy deptment!!! Well next time someone tells you that my advice to you is to laugh in their face, and walk away. As far as triggers are concerned, I have the Savage accu-trigger on both my Savages, and they are more than nice, they're great, only problem is that after I had a very good rifle smith adjust, thats right adjust, not polish, or stone or anything else like that, but adjust the trigger of my poor ol Ruger, the trigger pull is nicer than either of the Savages, and thats saying alot. So DON'T LET ANYBODY TALK YOUR RUGER DOWN.
Paul l
I have owned quite a few Ruger rifles ranging from 22LR to 30-06 SPRG. All of them have shot very well to me. When someone tells me they don't like Ruger rifles , I always ask them why. The majority of the people who don't like them have never shot them first hand and are only going with what others have told them. My response to these people is to try to shoot one first, then determine if you like it or not. I have taken people to the range with me and let them fire my Rugers, this led to the sale of some of my favorites like an M77 Ultra light in 270 Win. and also an M77 ultra light in .243 Win. In both cases after firing the guns they kept on bothering me until I gave in and sold them the guns. I guess there is nothing like first hand experience to learn from. They should have never doubted Rugers and I should have Never sold them!
Yep, Ruger's M77 is quality through and through. That nasty rumer about the M77 has been around for a long time, about 15 yrs ago I belonged to a couple of sniper sites, and even back then they were trashing the M77. Back then the Remies were all the rage and if you did'nt own a Remy, then what ever you owned was sh^%. Now the hot rifle is Savage, and anything else is crap, seems to me that there are too many Kool-aid drinkers out there. The truth is that most rifles from major manufaturers are good quality guns, if the shooter can't shoot worth a crap, then it's the shooters fault not the rifle's, but people being what they are, like to blame the rifle not themselves. Remember one thing in 100% of the cases, it's the shooter that hits the target, not the gun.
Paul
Ruger 77 was my first rifle I bought. It was used but have shot pronghorn, mule deer and whitetail deer with it and has been more than accurate with shots upto 400 yards. I have found through the years that guns are more of a matter of taste. What one person likes about a gun another may dislike.
I just sold my MK 77 Target in .204. Why? I live in S.E. Michigan, three miles from Detroit Metro Airport. There are only a couple of ranges close to me that have 100 yard shooting lanes. I got quite bored sitting there making little clover leafs. I just had no place to let the .204 do it's thing. Trust me, I was sorry to see it go, but for once, I was practical. 75% of my shooting is bowling pins matches so I'm always on the lookout for .45 Colt or .45 acp. If I had a use for a bolt gun, the MK 77 would be first on the list.
It is all in the eye of the beholder. I have shot an M77 30-06 since 1984 and I have no complaints. I agree with "Dead Eye", most rifles from quality manufactures are more accurate than the average shooter!!!!!
The deer I have killed with my old tang safety 77 270 don't seem to notice that it is a "piece of junk". Never lost a deer with that rifle. I like my three Rugers; 77, P90, and 22/45 and I hope to have me a GP100 or Mini 14 very soon if I can make up my cotton pickin mind which to buy first!!!
If I do my part the 77 will shoot better than moa.
A few years back there was an M77 30-06 for sale at our local Sports Authority store. It had been there for close to a year previous to that. Other guns came and went off of thier shelves. I asked the manager of the gun department why it was still there. He said that alot of people have looked at it but no one wants to buy it because there was a ding in the bluing from shipment on the barrel. I asked him if I could get a small discount on the gun because of the damage and he said many people had tried but were not succesful because it was already at a discounted price ($479). He set me up with his manager and we talked it over. Anyway the end result was that I bought the gun at the price they were asking. I had looked at it before and liked the gun. I planned to use it for hunting anyway, not as a display piece. I had it sitting in my safe for a couple of years up until I had problems getting ammo for my other guns. I set it up with a Leupold 3-9X40 and a composite stock, took it to the range and sighted it in, took it hunting and had great results 200-300 yard shots are very do-able with it. Not bad for a gun that nobody wanted!
I almost forgot to tell you that they don't stock any M77 guns at this time. they will bring them in on special order,if you put down a deposit.
My earlier tang safety 77’s required some bedding issues to be resolved, but all shot sub-minute groups when done. My M77 .270 is the one gun that I would use if missing wasn’t an option!
I just picked up a new .338 M77 and this gun needed nothing to shoot great, I would not hesitate to buy another M77, they’re on the top of my list for bolt actions.
well I just picked up a 2000 year model 77 MKII stainless steel 270win w/the ruger s.s. rings. It has that cheesy Ruger polymer stock. Im going to get a Hougue stock for it. Should kick like a mule w/ the ruger stock. Havent shot it as yet, havent even put a scope on it yet. But... I just love it.
Good stuff fella's. I've always been fond of the ruger ring/mount system. The TSOB type rings and mounts used on the XM24's of the 80's were just that, tough. Although I can't remember if they were prototypes or not. Been a while. Either way, I've always thought the rugged quick change-ability of the ruger system would have been useable, Given modification to insure no loosening under deployment conditions.
I remember my first M77, it was a .220 swift Liberty model, I really loved that gun, it had a really nice Redfield target scope on it (thats when Redfield made good scopes), anyway about 25 yrs ago the gun was stolen, and never recovered. I'd love to get another liberty model in .220 swift, but they are really pricey on gunbroker, if memory serves me I think I paid $350.00 for the gun brand new back in 1976. I'll always remember that rifle, it was beauteeeeful.
Paul
...I've heard it said time and again that Ruger M77's are not acurate, and have bad triggers... ...everybody says that Rugers can't shoot well, infact they are out right terrible in the acuracy deptment!!!...
I don't know; I haven't heard any of that stuff.
My brother-in-law's favorite rifle is his M77 .300 Win Mag. I've personally seen him down two muleys when I was hunting with him in Idaho (where he lives). He's never doubted the rifle. And currently, a local friend of mine would really like to find a nice M77 all-weather .30-06, with the funny synth stock.
My hunting rifle is a late-'80s Rem. Model Seven in 7mm08. It wears an HS Precision stock and a Leupold 2x7 Compact scope. I would have bought a Ruger, if they offered a short-barrel 7mm08 rifle back then...
Darn, wished someone had told me that, b4 I collected 4 of em... Basically some trigger tuning took care of my issues. I have found that they either shoot every thing well or nothing well. And ya know what, same is true with the savageremchesters too..
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