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Old August 24th, 2015, 05:53 AM   #1
 
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New Ruger Precision Rifle, Issue?

I just bought the new Precision Rifle in 308. Right out of the box I noticed a potential problem, the barrel is not in-line with the hand-guard rail. It's off by almost 1/4 inch. This will present problems with scope windage tracking at long range. I sent Ruger a message about this and asked if it is within manufacturing tolerances, still awaiting information. I will post a picture soon to show what I am seeing.
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Old August 24th, 2015, 06:52 AM   #2
 
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Based on a sample of 4 very different Ruger guns I bought recently, Ruger is struggling with quality control.
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The front hand guard is separate from the picatinny rail on the rifle receiver much like the handguard and upper receiver on an AR15 are separate. If you are mounting your scope on the receiver there should be no problems with windage. If you are using Iron sights or a scout scope that attaches to the front handguard this will cause problems. I agree that this rifle should be assembled correctly at the factory but some free float handguard designs for AR rifles suffer from this same problem.
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The handgaurd is not where you will be mounting optics on this rifle, so it's a non issue........................BUT, that doesn't excuse the fact that something is wrong with the rifle if the guard is crooked
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I just got my RPR same issue with hand guard and my safety switch super loose and jiggle I was able to loosen bolts and tweak hand Guard as far as safety goes I hope some body makes an aftermarket fix good news I took rifle out today ImageUploadedByOutdoor Forums1440462405.517345.jpgThe lower hole is before I adjusted up one click , five shots 100 yards
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I just got my RPR same issue with hand guard and my safety switch super loose and jiggle I was able to loosen bolts and tweak hand Guard as far as safety goes I hope some body makes an aftermarket fix good news I took rifle out today Attachment 20065The lower hole is before I adjusted up one click , five shots 100 yards
Do you have a picture of your RPR?
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Do you have a picture of your RPR?

ImageUploadedByOutdoor Forums1440469031.224768.jpg this a pic I took today at the range
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Okay, here's the update I received from Ruger customer service about this problem. They told me to take the hand guard off the rifle, see if there is a gap where the barrel is seated on the receiver, if there is, take the barrel off and reposition it. hmmm I am not a gunsmith but this seems not to be helpful for me. I sent them picture too and this is the response?
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Okay, here's the update I received from Ruger customer service about this problem. They told me to take the hand guard off the rifle, see if there is a gap where the barrel is seated on the receiver, if there is, take the barrel off and reposition it. hmmm I am not a gunsmith but this seems not to be helpful for me. I sent them picture too and this is the response?

You will need GO and NO GO gauges if your barrel needs adjusted I only had to tweet my hand guard to make it straight but mine was only off a little bit , I would send it back to Ruger
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Solution from Ruger

This was discussed over on the SniperHide forum and the response from Ruger was that one must loosen up the 3 retaining bolts, center the cover, and retorque the bolts. Ruger suggested tightening up to 75 inch pounds for the two screws.

Some members balked at that and one tried it out at 60 inch pounds and left it @ that following the advice of the Sampson rep, and about 15inch pounds shy of what the ruger rep told me to do @ 75inch pounds.. TO him, the screws didn't feel like they were going to strip out @ 60inch pounds and I wasn't worried about it.

BUT, he cautioned everyone that he was not recommending that anyone do what he did. He doesn't want the liability.

Your RPR, your risk.
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Attachment 20071 this a pic I took today at the range
What scope are you using on the RPR?
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What scope are you using on the RPR?

Vortex 4x16 30mm tube but I have plans to switch scopes I'm looking at the vortex pst 6x25 bdc or the vortex viper hst 4x16
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A new issue cropped up...

Apparently, several RPR owners of the .243 rifles are experiencing issues where their group sizes are expanding after a while. It can go from .75 up to 1.25 and even 2.0.

They're not sure whether it is an issue with the barrel heating up, cleaning, or what and are investigating.

There doesn't seem to be a problem with the .308's or 6.5 CM's.

One theory put forth below:
"Suppratt96 bore scoped his when it first came in and noted that it was pretty rough. The problem could be as simple as the mandrel not being as well finished as the 6.5 mandrel. Consider that the FN SPR and the TRG both use hammer forged barrels. That tells us that the process can produce highly accurate barrels.

The rifle's best performance has come with IMR4350 and 105A-Max's. I've done some OCW testing but haven't found a winner yet. Some results have been positive enough to try varying the jump. We'll see."
I'm still waiting for my 6.5 but, this concerns me.

BTW, there are already custom barrels out for the RPR.
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It's not JUST the .243 rifles. Many seem to show signs of opening up after getting the barrel hot. The barrel quality just doesn't seem to be there...........but, I don't know what people expect from a $1000 rifle.

I pointed out before, that there was no way a box stock $1000 rifle was going to compete with customs on an accuracy scale and was firmly chastised, because there was evidence of a few tiny 3 and 5 shot groups from the test rifles. Now that guys have run LOTs of rounds through some, that is exactly what is being seen. That and the handguards fit like crap, seem to be the major complaints...........Patriot Valley Arms already has a long list of guys waiting on new custom barrels. Josh also states that the actions are very solid, but no more "true" than say a factory Remington or Savage action. Some good, some bad............same as any other mass produced rifle.

Now all that said, I still want one, but am resigned to the fact it will need a barrel in short order and probably the new Seekins rail when they are ready, to really get it where I would want it to be. Will still be a REALLY nice rifle for a less than 2K investment

It all depends on what you want the rifle to DO. You want to "bang steel" at long ranges, or maybe even hunt at longer ranges, it will be fine, but no better than a premium bolt gun from other companies. You want it to make "bug holes" at long range........it's going to need work

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It's not JUST the .243 rifles. Many seem to show signs of opening up after getting the barrel hot. The barrel quality just doesn't seem to be there...........but, I don't know what people expect from a $1000 rifle.

I pointed out before, that there was no way a box stock $1000 rifle was going to compete with customs on an accuracy scale and was firmly chastised, because there was evidence of a few tiny 3 and 5 shot groups from the test rifles. Now that guys have run LOTs of rounds through some, that is exactly what is being seen. That and the handguards fit like crap, seem to be the major complaints...........Patriot Valley Arms already has a long list of guys waiting on new custom barrels. Josh also states that the actions are very solid, but no more "true" than say a factory Remington or Savage action. Some good, some bad............same as any other mass produced rifle.

Now all that said, I still want one, but am resigned to the fact it will need a barrel in short order and probably the new Seekins rail when they are ready, to really get it where I would want it to be. Will still be a REALLY nice rifle for a less than 2K investment

It all depends on what you want the rifle to DO. You want to "bang steel" at long ranges, or maybe even hunt at longer ranges, it will be fine, but no better than a premium bolt gun from other companies. You want it to make "bug holes" at long range........it's going to need work
I ordered an RPR and this is good to know. Thanks!
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