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Old July 21st, 2015, 01:49 PM   #91
 
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Nice rifle.
Crisp design, excellent engeneering.
Mags from GSR .308 is acceptible, I'm already have GSR in this caliber with 7 or 8 steel and polymer mags.

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the primary purpose for this rifle is for some terrorist to acquire one to commit mass murder
Terrorist tools are explosives, grenade launchers, machine guns against innocent civillians.
This BOLT rifle for target precision shooting rather AGAINST terrorists




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Thanks but are the rifles parts so you can be upgraded?
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Nice rifle.
Crisp design, excellent engeneering.
Mags from GSR .308 is acceptible, I'm already have GSR in this caliber with 7 or 8 steel and polymer mags.
I must have missed that detail, makes it more attractive for us GSR folks.
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I think i just found my dream Scout Rifle
It's an awesome looking rifle but not exactly what one might refer to as a "scout rifle". General rule of thumb for scouts are light weight short barrel rifles with lower power scopes. I had consider buying a Ruger American Compact and adding an inexpensive 1-4 power scope to make a budget scout/truck rifle. here's an article I've read where the author did just that with a RAR. There's also 2 other Rugers tested as scout rifles, a GSR and Mini 30. This article came out before the 300 Blackout Mini was offered otherwise I'm sure that model would have been in the line up.

Practical Testing of the Cooper Scout Rifle Concept | AllOutdoor.com

One thing though, I've read the lighter weight of the compact in 308 makes for an uncomfortable shooter with higher recoil than it's longer barrel brother. I then (and still am) considered an RAR Predator which in 308 comes with an threaded barrel that I believe has a heavier contour than the standard RAR Compact but same length at 18". Then one could add a muzzle brake to help eliminate recoil.



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6.5 Creedmoor has less recoil, less drop at distance (which means fewer turns of the elevation knob), less wind deflection, and is an inherently accurate round with great factory ammo available at reasonable prices.

.308 carries more energy close in, has a bazillion bullet choices, and is marginally easier on barrels.

I only shoot 6.5 Creedmoor at long distance now because it's sort of like cheating compared to .308...
Thanks for the info! I know, the 308 has such a following from ammo manufacturers. It's hard not to like that round. But I like Hornady and any round they help develop, like the 6.5 Creedmoor. Do you think on a rifle like this with a barrel length four inches longer on the Creedmoor could deliver better accuracy over the 308?
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Unless you're smarter than Frank Galli, I doubt you're right about this. He served as a Marine Sniper and runs snipershide.com, what are your credentials? He's taking the Ruger into competitions so we'll know soon enough.

In the meantime, you don't really know what you're talking about, it's just your unqualified guess and it's the same post over and over. We get it, you doubt it's as good as your $5,000 rig, or maybe you're hoping it isn't....

Here's another thought, for under $2k rifle and glass, this opens up a chance for a weekend shooter to clang steel out to 1000 yards. That's very interesting to me.
YOU have NO CLUE what I know and don't and we will just leave it at that.

I have dozens of rifles I can "clang steel" with at 1000 yards or more. So what. This rifle is labeled "Precision" rifle, yet the range tests I saw of it was about 3/4 MOA at 100 yards. I have several rifles that shoot 1/2 MOA at 1000 yards. You act like I am totally trashing the rifle and that is NOT true. I said it won't be as accurate as a custom built rig and it WON'T, but you are welcome to think whatever you want. Makes ZERO difference to me.

Somebody else asked why I thought it wouldn't be as good as a custom built rig...........I gave my opinion. Again, you don't agree, I don't care. It's MY opinion and I am entitled to it.

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I run a McMillan TAC .50 that pretty much costs more than what most people drive.
$1399 MSRP for a decent distance gun?
I absolutely love my Gunsite Scout, but I want one of these bad boys. No, two. Just in case one gets sick.
Toss on a Fortis RED hybrid brake/compensator. Shoot that thing all day long.
Gimme. Gimme. Gimme.
I am in line, boys.
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Out of curiosity I have a question for those who are already into this long distance shooting game - if you were interested in getting into this and the new Ruger PR was priced to open the door for you how much would you budget for a proper scope? Obviously this rifle comes without a scope and you need one. If the PR has a street price in the $1000 - $1200 range what would you plan to spend on a good scope? I'm expecting to hear more than the rifle costs but I could be wrong. And I don't necessarily mean how cheap can you do it either. I will assume the PR is a good enough rifle for this game so what do you think is the appropriate scope gonna cost?

I have no place down here in the swamps and jungles to shoot long (200 yards is the longest range around here that I know of) but I'm still interested enough to wonder what your total investment might be to set this rifle up.
I have a McMillan TAC 50 and run a long game with it.
The gun shoots 1/2 MOA at 1K yds and uses a seriously custom 32x Leupold on it.
Looked over the cut sheets and press release on the Ruger, and haven't seen any claims to accuracy. One would would assume sub-minute out of the box from a long range shooter.
The problem you run into with optics at longer distance, is clarity.
Fuzzy sight picture at 1600 yds is no bueno.
If you're only shooting at 2-300yds, most decent off the shelf scopes provide the clarity required to produce good shot placement. You could do well with first focal plane scope, something in the 12-24x power at 200-300 yds.
Should give you excellent sight picture and shot placement. Also good for the closer ranges.
At the longer distances, especially out to the 1600 yd range the mfg boasts, would probably require spending almost as much money for the optics as you did for the gun.
Probably more, if you want to be consistent at those distances.
Get something with adjustable turrets.
At that distance, you probably need something less than the typical 1/4 MOA adjustments. 1/4 MOA at 1600 yds is 4.188".
Makes it tough to dial in your scope at distance.
A scope with 1/8 MOA adjustments gives you far greater adjustments. Also.....Mo money.
Requires super fine reticles at 1600 yds. Definitely second focal plane scope required at longer distance. Drives the price up considerably. First focal plane probably won't do it. The reticle will most likely cover your intended target.
A .308 WIN traveling at 2710 fps at the muzzle slows to 1100 fps and drops 424 inches at 1000 yards. (Over 35 feet)
The velocity slows to approx 850 fps and drops over 1800 inches at 1600 yards. That's over 150 foot drop in 1600 yards.
What is that? Like a 15 story building? Trajectory like a freakin' rainbow.
Scopes don't have that range of adjustment.
The Ruger features a built in 20MOA rail. Designed to elevate the rear of the scope to be able to help center the scope at distance and use the full range of the elevation adjustment at distance.
This places your distant target back into the center of the optics where it has the least distortion and some adjustments for elevaton.
A 20MOA rail will make shot placement at the closer distances challenging for any scope as you will have to really crank of the turrets to bring your POI back down. If possible.
A 20MOA rail isn't good for squat inside of a couple hundred yards unless you have an extreme range adjustable scope.
Now you're back to using the crappy part of the optics to do most of your bidding at closer ranges.
If you use it at closer ranges most of the time, personally, I would swap out the elevated 20MOA rail for a flat one. But that's just me.
But I also wouldn't buy it for close up work. 600 and out more than likely. I like my Gunsite Scout in .308 for close up work.
Might be a really nice 1K yd gun in .308.
I don't know about the .308 out to 1600 yds though. I think the .308 starts to get a little wobble at about 1300 yds. It goes sub-sonic at 1100 yds.
If they can stabilize the .308 out to 1600 yds, would be a great shooter. A 20" barrel can only throw them out so fast though.
Maybe they are talking about reaching out there with the 6.5 Creedmoor and a 24" barrel.
Smaller projectile of the 6.5 Creedmoor, B.C of .585 vs .425 for the .308 WIN. The 6.5 creedmoor doesn't go sub-sonic until well over 1300 yds. and drops 334 inches at 1K yds and only drops 1290 inches at 1600yds.
Quite a bit different end game than the .308 WIN.
Although I prefer the .308 for simplicity, the 6.5 Creedmoor is probably a better choice for the long distance shooting. Now I'll have to get a bunch of new dies. Crap.
Then again, how many times do you get to poke holes in stuff at 1600 yds? Mountain Goat hunting anyone?
Clarity is a must have for long distance shooting. And that cost big duckets.
As you know, this is only an opinion.

I am definitely getting in line for one of these.
Whatever you shoot, have fun doing it.
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This is exactly what I was thinking! They need some "big boy" calibers, 338 Lapua, 408 CheyTac, 416 Barret and 50 BMG just to name a few.
Pretty much doesn't get any bigger than that.
Pull trigger, go Boom!
I love explosives.
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As is the intention of the rifle.......it will be a GREAT platform for some people to get a taste of some long range shooting, at a decent price.........I might stack it up like this. Maybe a near Sendero quality factory rifle, in a better stock, for less money and looks cool to boot.

Like I said, intend to try one........just got to find one.
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In looking over the comments and glancing over one article (one article was blocked using my system) the primary purpose for this rifle is for some terrorist to acquire one to commit mass murder and gain more gun control.

Makes one wonder if Ruger is in the pay of the government. Just wondering.
You pulled that from some dark place, right? You do understand this is a firearm forum?
A Ruger firearm forum.
One where we come to actually discuss guns and such. Pokin' holes in stuff. Paper AND hide. You know, blood on the ground type stuff.
We even talk about PETA every once in awhile (People Eating Tasty Animals)
We even get to talk about the new-fangled stuff that the mamby pambys don't like. Like scarey black rifles.
Even some made with folding thumb hole stocks. And silencers. Oooooh.

You are suggesting that due to the low market price and the readily available stock, that terrorists are now sporting accurized bolt action rifles to commit mass murder?
And Ruger must be in cahoots with the Gov't to design guns for terrorists to justify gun control. So they can implement gun control and be put out of business. Now that makes perfect sense.
You're funny. You make me laugh. Not really, but....

Me thinks you are preaching to the wrong choir.
Just trying to comprehend putting all those words into the same sentence makes me laugh.
That's funny stuff right there.
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I also like the Multi-magazine interface. That is a huge plus for me.
Someone earlier posted a link to a supply house selling it for under $1K.
Count me in.
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Let's keep the thread on the gun and not respond to ridiculous posts. Minefield is gone so the trolls gotta land somewhere. I use the ignore feature....
Agreed. This isn't the thread for that off topic distraction.

Just got my American Rifleman issue, look forward to reading more about the RPR. Really Jonesing for a LH version but may go RH since I'll use a bipod anyway. Hmmm. Looking forward to more reviews on this one.

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I must have missed that detail, makes it more attractive for us GSR folks.
Just to make sure the GSR mags work in the RPR, I called Ruger CS and they confirmed they do work.
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Just to make sure the GSR mags work in the RPR, I called Ruger CS and they confirmed they do work.
Dang it! I was all set to justify a new caliber - 6.5 Creedmoor - and now you throw that out there. I have a GSR already so I have a few GSR mags..... 308 RPR??

Sigh

Fact is I need to find out where around here I could shoot the thing beyond 200 yards. I suppose I could go out on the Gulf of Mexico on a calm day....
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Dang it! I was all set to justify a new caliber - 6.5 Creedmoor - and now you throw that out there. I have a GSR already so I have a few GSR mags..... 308 RPR??

Sigh
I'm curious if there are special mags for the other calibers. I'd assume so but IIRC there was something saying it's the same mag, but I'm not sure.

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Fact is I need to find out where around here I could shoot the thing beyond 200 yards. I suppose I could go out on the Gulf of Mexico on a calm day....
Florida is pretty flat, is the problem too much vegetation? Alas a benefit of living in a desert.
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