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Old June 22nd, 2014, 06:43 PM   #1
 
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New American 223, jams on last round

My wife got a new American .223 today. It was my typically unromantic anniversary gift to her.

All appears well with the rifle except it has the infamous last round in the magazine jamming issue. I contacted customer service via Ruger's web site and have every confidence they will do the right thing. I have quite a few Rugers and this is my first time needing to contact them. I'm not upset over this and consider it a rather minor inconvenience.

I've searched quite a bit looking for information on these magazines, wondering if the spring tension can be adjusted like the 10/22 rotary magazine. So far I've found nothing. It sure looks like a little more tension would correct the problem, and I usually can't resist tinkering on things. If Ruger sends a new magazine, and doesn't want the original back, I will open it up and see what can be done. Anyone here try tweaking the spring yet?



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Old June 22nd, 2014, 07:18 PM   #2
 
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They have great service. You may want to call them also....may be faster.
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I'm betting Ruger will make it right.
Let us know please.
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I bought one today and guess what? Trouble with mag!!!!!
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z400acdc: Sorry to hear we have both joined the same club.

Ziggidy, you're right, I should have called. It took 48 hours for an email response and they didn't have my mailing address, which must be in their system somewhere from previous product registrations, including this rifle. I called to provide the address and they are sending a "range tested" replacement magazine. I'll follow up when we get a chance to test it.
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I know what is wrong with mine. If you hold up on the front of the mag, it feeds fine. Ruger cut to much out of the stock where the Mag button latches. I cut a small piece of plastic and used JB weld to attach it to the mag button. It feeds fine now. I could have put it on the stock, that would have been better, but If it did not work it would look bad if I had to send it back.
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The new magazine arrived today and it works perfectly. Thank you Ruger customer service. There are a couple noticeable differences between the original and replacement magazines. The replacement magazine metal follower has much more of a bend toward the center, while the original is nearly straight. This probably helps support the last round from dropping down. The feed lips on the replacement appear to have been lightly sanded or filed, leaving the tapered opening .010" to .015" wider than the original. The spring tension feels about the same. I didn't attempt to measure it. In the attached pictures, the replacement magazine is on the left.

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Thanks for posting the pics of updated mag. My new mag is on the way. I heated up a screwdriver and melted the follower stop to make (MY BAD ONE) look like the updated one. It worked great.

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I took the original magazine apart and bent the follower to match the new one. It took several attempts to get it just right. Now we have two good magazines. The only issue with taking these apart is the rear half has three tabs with pegs that engage the holes in the front half. One of these was already broken, and the other two broke while disassembling. The plastic is too brittle to allow the flexibility needed. I super-glued the two halves together, which is rather permanent but it works.
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If you hold the follower back, you will see the stop for it. I got a small screwdriver hot and melted it back a little. Now the follower looks almost like the updated one. My updated mag came in today and the spring is a little stiffer also. I am just glad it runs now.
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I recently pick up an American in .223, and was immediately upset by the fact that it could not chamber a round from the magazine. I found my way to this thread! The first round would sometimes chamber (about 50/50), the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th almost always would chamber, and 100% of the time, the 5th round (or when I only had one round in the magazine) would never chamber. The bolt would close about 1/2 way, and then as other stated, the rim of the round would begin to drop down into the magazine, and the bolt would begin to push in the middle of the round and stovepipe it. Quick obviously a problem with the magazine and no other part of the rifle.

I contacted Ruger yesterday, and explained, they immediately said they were shipping a replacement to me. I asked if it would be 'field tested' and they replied that 'most of the replacement mags they ship out for this kind of issue have been tested.. yes.'

Last night I did take a shot at modifying my original faulty mag based on the pics provided in this thread. I opened the mag, and used a dremmel to remove about 1/3 of the material from the follower plastic stop piece. This positioned the follower about in the middle of the opening. I tried a few times to chamber a round and it still had issue. I then took out the metal follower, and used a flat file and then a dremel to remove a bit of material form the top back half of the follower. I did this so that rim would engage the top of the follower and not allow it to push/fall down into the magazine. This worked. I was able to chamber 5/5 rounds about ten cycles without issue. Hard closing of the bolt and slow closing of the bolt.

I did try again this AM and I had a couple stovepipes on that last round twice. But then after about 2 more loadings/unloads it was working 100%. Maybe not it's just a matter of breaking it in or a little more minor tweaking. Will be interested in trying the new one I get from Ruger on Friday!
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Ruger made me send my original mag back. I'm waiting on the new one now. I bought the gun the beginning of June, but I waited till the soy beans got too high to see the groundhogs to send the mag back. I would have sent it earlier, but I have arthritis and the ejection port is too small for me to load it single shot. I'm anxiously awaiting the replacement.
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Pretty surprised they messed up their hallmark feature on this rifle - the rotary mag! If the replacement does not operate with 100% confidence I will give them one more chance to make it right. Such a shame as it seems like a great rifle. But what good is it without a confidence that the mag will function. I know they were shooting for a low price point but I would gladly paid am extra 30 to 50 bucks for a quality mag. This thing is the epitome of cheap compared to my 10\22 and 77\357 in terms on magazine build quality and function.
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fixed!

Three days after calling Ruger I have received my replacement mag from them. There are subtle but important differences from my original. The metal follower is more centered allowing it to support the last round, it has a different off center alignment from the original and I think it has a little different depth as well. Lastly the plastic is visually different, almost looks like they used the higher quality polymer that looks like my 77\357 mags. Seems slightly more ridgid. After cycling 10 mags of 5 rounds this mag seems to function flawlessly. Thank you Ruger for the fast and effective replacement. Now I look forward to enjoying the rifle!
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