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Old September 5th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #1
 
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10/22-RPF....mods needed?

have just picked up a 10/22-RPF carbine as my first rifle.

Anything I should be aware of, or be looking to change, pertaining to this firearm?


thanks in advance,
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Old September 5th, 2012, 09:07 PM   #2
 
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Nope it will shoot just fine out of the box. Clean it, lube it, go shoot the crap out of it.

BTW. Welcome to the forum.
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I put a bolt buffer on mine the first time I cleaned it (never shot it without one) it's a cheap mod that well help in more then one area.

Ordered & received the bolt buffer and some BX-25 mags before I ever even got the gun.

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Welcome from California's High Desert & to the Forum. Shoot every chance you get & you will know your rifle.
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The most common mod is to upgrade the trigger, but I've shot 10/22s since the 60s without ever touching the trigger. Sure, no one ever accused 10/22s of having great triggers, but I've kind of grown accustomed to the 10/22 triggers and, crazy me, I kind of like them. Go figure.
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I would consider a power custom or other brand trigger upgrade kit, but probably not swap out the entire trigger assembly for a super fancy cnc version, I really don't think those are worth the money.
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I put a bolt buffer on mine the first time I cleaned it (never shot it without one) it's a cheap mod that well help in more then one area.

Ordered & received the bolt buffer and some BX-25 mags before I ever even got the gun.
I agree a bolt buffer is a cheap mod, but it's hardly necessary and way overrated. The only advantage I see to them is if your shooting suppressed sub-sonic ammo, other than that they are pointless.
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If you bought it to enjoy as it is, do just that. if you bought it to change and make alterations, decide which direction to want to go, see what's available to reach that and go that route. Nothing needs to be done to have fun. Some things are cosmetic upgrades, others performance/function upgrades. All depends on what YOU, the owner, wants not the rest of us.
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3 basic mods

I'm not a gunsmith but i've been doing tons of research, not just this website, all over.

i do not have a lot of money so for now it seems like the 3 best mods to do to improve the rifle as it is are:

- add a bolt buffer. One guy posted he thinks it's useless, but i've seen countless people speak about the benefits of it. You can get them for a couple dollars. My view - if every major aftermarket company, includiong Volquartzen makes them, they must be worthwhile.

- trigger. now there are a million ways to go about dealing with the trigger and there are just as many viewpoints. i understand the trigger, what does what, and from what i've seen, if you want to have a nice, clean trigger with a pull that is, generally agreed upon to be nicer (around 3 lbs or so) with a crisp, clean "breaK" then you want to deal with your hammer. you can find videios on how to mod the hammer so the trigger has anice pull, etc, but it's prertty tricky and honestly, the proper tools (honing stones, etc) to do it, plus a trigger pull scale cost as much as a decent drop in trigger so unless you're planning on doing many yourself, skip that. Now, from what i've been able to research, the cheapest, best, and most reliable way to imrpove your trigger is to simply purchase a hammer that has been re-worked. There are a few makers, I trust Volquartzen the most because they've been around so long, they are about 30 bucks. it's easy to install and this will give you a nice trigger pull and should be all you really need there. i admit, in all candor, i haven't done this yet so you may want to ask around on this one but it's what i plan on doing to my next gun. the thing i find is that most guys do a trigger, of whatever type whether personally modded, drop in, cheap, expensive, or otherwise, and then they think what they did is the best but being more objective here, i'd only listen to someone who has done many triggers and i did, a gunsmith, and this and al he does are 10 22s and this is what he said.

- automatic bolt release mod. while you have the trigger out, remove the auto bolt release part and learn how to file out the tooth in there. this will make it so that when your bolt stays open on last round fired, you dno't have to manipulate the button to get the bolt to close on your fresh mag. this is something almost everyone does. if you're not comfy doing the mod you can buy the part all over for like 20 bucks or something but i saw some reviews where guys were not happy with ones they bought, didn't work. if you have a dremel, do it yourself. if u sccrew it up the replacement part isn't costly or buy the replacement part first and work with it.

other than that, it's all about what you want to do with the gun. Single best next mod is of course a high cap magazine but i've heard certain manufacturers suck so do your research. i recommend youtube a guy called nutnfancy, he does a whole video series on 10 22s and he knows what he's talking about froma laymen's persepective and i also like his 10 22s.

my next build is an ultra light bug out gun so i will go with the 3 mods above, put it in an ATI strikeeforce stock (or maybe Tapco, havn't decided) with foregrip from UTG, a taclight (which i know, sounds silly but i have my reasons) on the side rail, and a relatively cheap UAG tactical reflex sight or maybe a small tactical 4 power and if it fits or makes sense, a very light bi pod. i am not changing the barrell.

I might install a bolt handle (by Kidd Co) but i am not sure yet. it's 35 bucks and i need to talk to more people about them. the few i've seen remark on it say it was a great mod.

All told, i will probably end up spending (mags aside) around 200 bucks foir all this crap and my gun will kick ass. it will not be a match grade, olympic quality, tack driver but if i wanted such a gun i personally would not start with a 10 22.

i don't wholeheartedly recommend aftermarket barrells though i have one on my other 10 22. from what i've read about real world use and reliabillity, the factory barrel is excellent but if you've got tons of cash then i suupppose i'd go with a paclight barrell from tacsolutions especially if u want to thread somethign ont h end. truly wish ruger would put an end cap and threads ont he barrell.

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- add a bolt buffer. One guy posted he thinks it's useless, but i've seen countless people speak about the benefits of it. You can get them for a couple dollars. My view - if every major aftermarket company, includiong Volquartzen makes them, they must be worthwhile.

I might install a bolt handle (by Kidd Co) but i am not sure yet. it's 35 bucks and i need to talk to more people about them. the few i've seen remark on it say it was a great mod.
I can vouch for the KIDD Cocking Assembly, Bolt Buffer, Auto-Bolt Release, and much more from KIDD.

All of which are installed on my 10/22 and done by myself. The quality is great and the price is just as reasonable. The customer service is on par, and they are quick to rectify any issues.

Overall I have seen a great improvement in the mechanics of the rifle after installing all KIDD components. It is much more smooth, and with the adjustable springs you can adjust to any type of ammo or personal style.

If you are looking for a Stainless Barrel I have one laying around taken off my 10/22 in new condition.

Good shooting
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I would like to eventually deck mine out with Kidd parts.
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I'm not a gunsmith but i've been doing tons of research, not just this website, all over.


- add a bolt buffer. One guy posted he thinks it's useless, but i've seen countless people speak about the benefits of it. You can get them for a couple dollars. My view - if every major aftermarket company, includiong Volquartzen makes them, they must be worthwhile.
So you mean you've been reading too much on the Internet and regurgitating information without any first hand experience.....

I'm pretty sure several companies also sell penis enlargement pills, so they must be worthwhile....
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So you mean you've been reading too much on the Internet and regurgitating information without any first hand experience.....

I'm pretty sure several companies also sell penis enlargement pills, so they must be worthwhile....


Perfect! My view...if after over a million 10/22's manufactured and Ruger hasn't determined that the little steel bolt stop pin is such a major issue, then I gotta side on the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Gotta believe that after 40+ years, 1,000,000+ made their engineers and designers have a bit of knowledge on them.
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I bought my 1022 in 1986' It has been shot countless 1000's of shots.

They are awesome guns, very accurate, cheap, & Fun to shoot.

If you have a new Gun, you have all new parts, I would put at least 5,000-10,000 rounds through it first.

When you start to have failure to eject, or stove pipes, then it's time to start.

I started to have some minor FTE, and an occasional stove pipe.

The 1022 just works, it is a reliable work horse.

I have changed to all Kidd internals, below next to each item is my review of each, YES GET IT means I would definitely buy that part again.

Kidd parts I installed in my 1022
1. New Complete Bolt, YES GET IT
2. New Charging handle and Rod/spring YES GET IT
3. Trigger Job Kit YES GET IT
4. Last shot Bolt Hold open well I am not sure
5. Bolt Buffer Not Sure, I cannot tell any difference, if a metallic sound was deadened I cannot tell it,
6. Mag extended release If yours is a new gun you already have a version of this

With these new parts my 1022 is very smooth, and the trigger pull is amazing, very light and very short pull

Future items
Vertical Grip w/ bi-pod in Grip
New Barrel

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I have changed to all Kidd internals, below next to each item is my review of each, YES GET IT means I would definitely buy that part again.

Kidd parts I installed in my 1022
1. New Complete Bolt, YES GET IT
2. New Charging handle and Rod/spring YES GET IT
3. Trigger Job Kit YES GET IT
4. Last shot Bolt Hold open well I am not sure
5. Bolt Buffer Not Sure, I cannot tell any difference, if a metallic sound was deadened I cannot tell it,
6. Mag extended release If yours is a new gun you already have a version of this
I would agree with the aforementioned except for the following:

#4 - Absolutely, the stock geometry is a bit finicky imo when it comes to locking the action open. The auto bolt release (bolt hold open from KIDD) is such a worthwhile investment, it just makes more sense and allows for quick racking, etc..

#5 - I might be crazy, but the bolt buffer for me made a difference. It is just much smoother and definitely dampens the cycling vibrations.

#6 - The new 10/22 models do have a mag release, but it is still a bit awkward. I opted for the KIDD interchangeable version which has made it MUCH more comfortable and the speed lever is so nice!

Although, this is YOUR build and YOU should build it the way YOU want. I have learned this valuable piece if information from a fellow forum member: BlkHawk73

Good shooting!
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