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Old September 1st, 2012, 06:04 AM   #1
 
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Ruger Ace In The Hole Set

Ruger just released a new sight and scope mount called the "Ace In The Hole".

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Ace in the Hole scope base set with fiber optic front sight for the Ruger® 10/22®. This is a fully adjustable aperture sight built right into the scope base. Adjusts for windage and elevation. Made in America by Williams Gun Sight Company, Inc. Professional installation recommended.


The new set is available from ShopRuger.Com and retails for $65.



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Old September 1st, 2012, 07:26 AM   #2
 
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Will it work with factory front sight?
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Will it work with factory front sight?
NO...it will not...

That product is actually made by Williams for a variety of rifles including the 10/22...

Open Gun Sights and Fiber Optic Gun Sights from Williams Gun Sight

http://www.williamsgunsight.com/guns...12_Catalog.pdf

Williams makes the fire-sight set the Ruger factory uses on the compact model 10/22...

It is the same rear peep sight at their RU-22 fire-sight set sold for the 10/22...only integrated with a picatinny rail which is becoming more common from several sources in a variety of offerings...

That rear sight is too high for the factory bead...you have to replace it with a taller one...the one Williams provides with the fiber optic front bead...

You can also get a variety of peep hole inserts with different features like twilight rings and a also a ghost ring with fiber-optic elevation dots...

I have both the Ru-22 and the WGRS-54 and a variety of peeps but have not tried the ghost ring with fiber-optics yet...

Changing out the front sight is easy...

This guy shows you how if you have any doubts...



Midway carries just about everything for the 10/22 Williams makes including the ace in the hole but the fiber optic ghost ring is only available from Williams at this time...

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I like their peep sights a lot...

The only draw-back with the peep sight/scope rail combos is that the eye levels are completely different...with a factory stock I would take a look at slip-n cheek pads to add when adding a scope...or make sure any cheek weld you have set properly for your scope can be easily removed to be able to see thru the low-profile peep sight...

One last thing to note about that fiber optic front post...it is a tad large for small targets farther than 50 yards...but the fiber rod is easily removed then you can see all...pretty cool and I like that ten times better myself

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Old September 1st, 2012, 11:59 AM   #4
 
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I have the peep sights without the fiber optic front post, and I really like them. I decided to not go with the fiber optic based on that I don't treat my gun real gently, and I am sure the fiber optic rod would get broken and fall out.
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I've had the Ace in Hole from Williams since the beginning of the summer. I use them on my 10/22 Takedown. They work great in that application (swapping out scopes) but I find myself using the peep sight and fiber optic front sight more than my magnified scope or my red dot. Williams makes a great product. Just be careful with the rear peep sight screws, they can be adjusted for windage and elevation, but the screws come lose fairly easily and there is NO finding them if they fall out.
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x2 on that one...

Definitely use blue loctite...I lost my whole ghost ring off the RU-22...
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Can you use standard scope rings with this sight...
I am not really familiar with a picatinny mount system
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I am not 100% certain...however, I believe that rail is Weaver-style with multi-slot not Picatinny...

Also there is no such thing IMO as "standard"... there are at least three different width rails available for the 10/22...the one from the factory which sucks IMO...the Weaver style found on bolt action 22s...and the "standard" for Weaver style which is the same dovetail found on Picatinny (I think...you have to verify that part yourself)

You can go to Williams Gun Sight website to find out...

If it is picatinny you should be able to use both Picatinny and Weaver-style...

If it is Weaver-Style Picatinny probably won't fit...

I believe the cross bolts on Picatinny are too big for Weaver slots...

You can enlarge a Weaver slot if you really want to...

They don't list the Ace in the Hole in the product offerings but on their home page there is a link to down load their product catalog where you will find that ace in the hole prominently featured...

http://www.williamsgunsight.com/guns...htsdefault.htm

http://www.williamsgunsight.com/guns...12_Catalog.pdf

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Questions on the Ace-in-the-Hole Sight

First, does anyone have any still pics of the set-up -- with and without a scope attached. Windage and elevation adjustments are fully satisfactory? Can you use the factory front sight blade with the Ace-in-the-Hole. Thanks and regards, Scott
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Tech Sights also has a Rail mounted Rear Peep Sight for their TSR200 Front sight.

I have both the Williams Ace in the Hole on my 10/22TD and

The Tech Sights Rail Mounted Rear Peep sight on my 10/22 Carbine.

Tech Sights accomplishes this by using their TSM200 Rear sight with the TSR200 Front sight.

The TSM200 Rear Rail Peep sight mounts on the standard OEM Ruger Receiver Rail, Or a Weaver T09 Rail.

The TSM200 Rear Peep Sight is made for the Marlin 795/60.

I called Erik at Tech sights to confirm that the Two sights worked together before I bought them.

I can say they do work together very well.

I will also say that the Williams "Ace in the Hole" also works very well.
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Has anyone with a Williams Ace In The Hole has had any trouble with a Red Dot sight also mounted on a the rail. I have a Tru-Glo Red Dot and am considering adding the Ace.
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