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Old August 17th, 2012, 07:56 AM   #1
 
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Never seen this before.. Ruger 10/22 takedown

Had issues with my Ruger 10/22. Stopped firing unexpectedly. Realized the two parts were not locking together correctly. After comparing with another Takedown model realized "this" was causing the problem. I'm in contacting Ruger but I thought you guys might be interested.



Somehow the piece that locks the two parts together has sheared off completely. I know full well I could not have done this without damaging other areas of the rifle.



I haven't even put a thousand rounds through this Rifle yet, so I'm a little annoyed (I have a new box of 500 I wanting to burn through at the range) but I'm not hating on Ruger as this is a mechanical device and sometimes these things happen.

Anyone heard of this happening before or have any opinions on it?



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Old August 17th, 2012, 08:01 AM   #2
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That's enough to ruin your day!!! I've not seen it before... mainly because I don't have a 10/22 take down... yet! ;-)
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Man, thats disappointing. Let us know who Ruger takes care of you on this.
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i just got mine out and looked at it-- to my eye that definitely looks like some sort of mechanical/structural failure. i can't imagine, even if one forgot something like pulling the bolt back before taking down, or anything else really, that you or anyone else could have done that to it. i'd definitely talk to the ruger folks and send them those pics. bummer!!!
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Apparently Ruger haven't heard of this either. Gotta get it sent back in. I can't see how they could repair it.. seems to me they'll probably have to replace it. Which I'm sure will probably take longer. Ah well I guess I'm gonna add a Marlin Model 60 to my set.. Just something low priced for plinking until my Ruger comes back. Anyone know of any other low priced reliable .22's?
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I wondered if this was going to be a problem spot when I first studied the design of the takedown model, knowing this area could be a weak spot if made from cast vs forged steel, seeing how relatively thin the lug is. The break area looks like cast steel to me and not forged, which is a mystery because I thought the barrels were made from forged steel.

Hate to see this happen.

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Not just the obvious broken part area, but do you all notice the machine marks left on the gun? Come on Ruger, that's so unRuger like and inexplicable! Sorry for your problem, I trust that Ruger will do a better job with the fix than the first time through. Smithy.
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I took a look at my TD and, right now, I see no problem (only a couple of hundred rounds though). The broken lug is part of the barrel steel. The lug and the cutout next to it are cut into the barrel and appear not to be a casting.

Every time the bolt returns to battery, the bolt hits the end of the barrel and not the receiver. All that force is transmitted to the lug that holds the barrel in place every time the bolt closes.

Now, I know nothing about steel used in barrels. It may be that there was some minor defect or crack in the barrel or from the machining that formed the lug - or - it is a defect in design that will show up later as more owners put many rounds through the TD.

What do you think?
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Not just the obvious broken part area, but do you all notice the machine marks left on the gun? Come on Ruger, that's so unRuger like and inexplicable! Sorry for your problem, I trust that Ruger will do a better job with the fix than the first time through. Smithy.
Seeing that the area in the pic is not exposed when together, I do not think the machine marks are out of the norm. After a piece is cut, if it is not an exposed (finished exterior) area they will not normally go to extremes to polish them out. Being a locking lug, it really just needs to be cut to size and finished enough to provide smooth function without hanging up, while staying within tolerances. I could show you pics of the inside of my Gunsite Scout's action that would really scare you!

Hey OP, is it possible to break down that gun and get some more pics? Perhaps a closeup of the lug that was broken off if you still have it?

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Apparently Ruger haven't heard of this either. Gotta get it sent back in. I can't see how they could repair it.. seems to me they'll probably have to replace it. Which I'm sure will probably take longer. Ah well I guess I'm gonna add a Marlin Model 60 to my set.. Just something low priced for plinking until my Ruger comes back. Anyone know of any other low priced reliable .22's?
Mossberg makes a nice .22 rifle, so does Savage. Google them!
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By the looks of it I would venture to guess that particular issue would pose a difficult problem for Ruger! It's hard to believe that they would use cast in such a critical spot (if it is cast), seeing this makes me glad I purchased the Henry take-down for my boat instead of the Ruger. I also have a Marlin Pappose take-down .22 that will print really impressive groupings but I didn't want to use that as my boat gun given that it's still in 100% condition. Ruger seems to be having a lot more QC issues lately than they ever did in the past. Seems to me like they may be spreading themselves a little too thin with all the different models they currently make. I sure do miss the Ruger of old when they made extra heavy duty firearms that would easily last several lifetimes! This economy seems to be forcing everyone to cut corners and use sub-par materials & manufacturing practices. It looks like they might be taking a big hit on this issue if it's not isolated to this one incident. I guess we'll just have to wait & see if this particular problem turns up again. Hopefully it's not a "model wide" problem!
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How tight of a fit did you have when the two parts mated. Maybe it was adjusted too tight and put too much stress on the area. One good thing is people will start making aftermarket barrels for them. I made my own but tactical innovations told me they are in the process of making some bull barrels.
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How tight of a fit did you have when the two parts mated. Maybe it was adjusted too tight and put too much stress on the area. One good thing is people will start making aftermarket barrels for them. I made my own but tactical innovations told me they are in the process of making some bull barrels.
You made your own bull barrel for your takedown? Can we see pics please? What kind of steel did you use?
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10/22 Take Down

Here is the link to my posting. I should have phrased it different. I didn't make my own. I bought one and made it fit. Sorry for any confusion.
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Seeing that the area in the pic is not exposed when together, I do not think the machine marks are out of the norm. After a piece is cut, if it is not an exposed (finished exterior) area they will not normally go to extremes to polish them out. Being a locking lug, it really just needs to be cut to size and finished enough to provide smooth function without hanging up, while staying within tolerances. I could show you pics of the inside of my Gunsite Scout's action that would really scare you!

Hey OP, is it possible to break down that gun and get some more pics? Perhaps a closeup of the lug that was broken off if you still have it?
Sorry forgot to reply and say I'd already sent the rifle back, and unfortunately I never knew the lug was broken off until later that day. Plus its highly probable that the part fell into the grass so I doubt I'd have found it even if I knew to look for it.

I spoke to someone at Ruger before the weekend and was told the tech had checked the gun and was putting his report in to the manager. And that's all that they would tell me. I feel a little bit fobbed off tbh.

I ended up purchasing a Mossberg plinkster (on the advice of someone here) just picked up a low priced one from my local family owned pawn shop. I do enjoy shooting it, but I'm looking forward to getting my Ruger back. Hopefully that's gonna be pretty soon because it's been a while.. well it feels like it anyway.
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