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Old August 2nd, 2012, 12:11 PM   #1
 
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Brand new 10/22 Carbine VERY inaccurate!

Well I looked, read and studied for a long time. Couldn't decide between a 10/22 or a Marlin Mod. 60. Finally decided on the 10/22 because of all the good comments & threads about them, plus availability of parts, accessories and service. Man ... did I ever pick the WRONG rifle!

Brand new out of the box and it shoots 8" to 10" high from point of aim. I have adjusted rear sight countless times, replaced the rear sight three times, called Customer Service, sent it back to Ruger for "repair"??? ... and it came back NO BETTER than it was when I sent it in!

The repair ticket said nothing but a very vague "Removed debris under barrel". Under where? Between barrel and the stock? Or under where barrel goes into receiver? No wonder I got it back in a week, I don't think they even did anything to it.

Been to the range numerous times working with it ... no luck. :-(
Next step ... melt it down & sell it for SCRAP METAL & split the stock up for kindling! Then go buy the Marlin Mod. 60 which I guess I should have bought to start with.

I have 3 other Rugers I've had for years with NO problems.
Never again!



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Old August 2nd, 2012, 12:38 PM   #2
 
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Seems like you need to talk to Ruger about it again. If that doesn't work, you can send it to me rather than melting it down and I will get it fixed and shooting right haha
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Sounds like you got a real lemon. My nearly stock carbine is dead accurate with irons out to 50 yards easy. It's less than a year old. I can't imagine what could cause it to shoot that high. Did you look at the crown? Is it seriously messed up or non existant?
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You only say your 10/22 is shooting 8-10 in high. Does it group well? The rear sight ajusts for elevation. Does the Point of impact change as you adjust the rear sight up and down? Moving Rear sight down moves POI down. I have seen internet posts where either the front or rear dovetail machining is out of spec.

Suggest you go to rimfirecentral.com and post a detailed description of your problem in the 10/22 Factory/Stock forum. There seem to be a lot of knowledgable and helpful folks there who may have some good ideas for you.

The Marlin 60 is generally thought to be more accurqte than the stock 10/22, but the 10/22 can be modified to perform better. For an accurate out of the box 10/22 look at the distributor exclusive LVT models from AcuSport that will outshoot the Marlin.
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Heading into this with that negative of a manner doesn't help although I can understand the frustration. 1) What distance are these groups being shot at? 2) Have you tried different ammo? If so any differences in POI? 3) Are all barrel retaining bolt tight and take town bolt tight?

You did say that one reason you went with the Ruger was due to the "availability of parts, accessories and service." Maybe it's time to accessorize.
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First ever I have heard of this except for very loose sights,dont discourage,send it in or evaluate from a G/S.
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Yes, talk to Ruger CS again and explain in detail your problem. They WILL do right by you, I promise!
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I just purchased a 10-22 last week. I mounted a used scope and within 10 min. had it shooting quarter sized 10 shot groups at 25 yrds Is it a birch stock or synthetic? I bought a synthetic for my son a year ago. We could not get that thing to stay sighted in for nothing. Went to a local gun shop and found a used birch stock and installed it. Shoots just fine now. Keep at it. Something must be wrong. Contact Ruger again.
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If you are grouping well and still hitting high you need a taller FRONT sight. Raising the front sight will lower the grouping. Check this page from Skinner Sights. It includes a formula to calculate what size front sight you may need.

It is possible that Ruger may have put the wrong size (shorter) front sight on the barrel for some reason.

These problems can be VERY frustrating but they can be solved. Just walk away for a bit and count to 10 (maybe 100 here) and then go back with a clear mind. You have a lot of support and advice here. Use us to help.

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heading into this with that negative of a manner doesn't help although i can understand the frustration. 1) what distance are these groups being shot at? 2) have you tried different ammo? If so any differences in poi? 3) are all barrel retaining bolt tight and take town bolt tight?

You did say that one reason you went with the ruger was due to the "availability of parts, accessories and service." maybe it's time to accessorize.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 06:01 PM   #11
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I have both Marlin Glenfield model 60 with a Nikon 4x32 & a Ruger 10 22 with a Weaver k 4. My 10 22 will out shoot the Marlin but it might have something to do with trigger the 10 22 trigger is much better both are plain stock models. I've been able to shoot 10 shots through same hole at 25 yrds with the Ruger have'nt been able to do it with the Marlin yet. It shoots pretty good also just need to get better trigger for it I guess.
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are you sure you're adjusting the sights in the correct direction?

RAISING the rear sight will RAISE the POI (For shooting longer ranges)
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I must admit I am a bit skeptical that there is anything wrong with your rifle, other than that perhaps the sights need to be properly adjusted. The rifle is not spraying rounds all over the place, but is described as consistently shooting 8-10 inches high from the point of aim.

When adjusting to an unfamiliar gun, it is often necessary to get used to "where to hold." If you own the gun, of course you can sight it in better. If it is a borrowed gun, you just need to get used to where to aim.

I suppose if all else fails, though, Ruger will probably just send you a new one if you insist.

p.s. I have both the 10/22 and the Marlin 60. Comparing them is a little bit apples to oranges, but they are both accurate. Much more accurate than I am. I would not pick one over the other solely for that reason.
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If you are grouping well and still hitting high you need a taller FRONT sight. Raising the front sight will lower the grouping. Check this page from Skinner Sights. It includes a formula to calculate what size front sight you may need.

It is possible that Ruger may have put the wrong size (shorter) front sight on the barrel for some reason.

These problems can be VERY frustrating but they can be solved. Just walk away for a bit and count to 10 (maybe 100 here) and then go back with a clear mind. You have a lot of support and advice here. Use us to help.

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Bladesarg - Understand your frustration but Ruger CS is one of the best. Can not say what happened when you returned it but maybe misunderstanding of your actual problem. To those who have stated you should accessorize or buy new sights on a brand new rifle I say that is hogwash. You expect a Ruger to work right and you expect Ruger to correct any issues if it does not work right.

PS - as to the Marlin 60 - remember MARLIN IS NOT MARLIN ANY MORE. Unless you buy an older tried and tru Marlin 60 I would be very careful buying a new REMLIN.....

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