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Old March 9th, 2011, 02:25 PM   #1
 
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Trigger upgrade?

Hey guys, I have an SR 22 and was looking to shoot some tighter groups! I was thinking about buying a 2 stage trigger from KIDD, I hear they are a great addition to any 10 22. There are some questions I have, is it really worth all the money? The KIDD trigger can be set to as high as 2.5 pounds of pull and as low as 6 oz much lower than the stock trigger. I just wanted to get some different ideas as what to do? Thanks!!



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Old March 9th, 2011, 02:34 PM   #2
 
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The Kidd is the creme de la creme. However, unless you have a likewise high quality bbl and have it all set-up properly, you'll never get the full ability from it. Kinda gotta match levels to really make it worth while. IMO, having done these quite a few times now (#'s 15 and 16 are in progress) gotta say the best bang for the buck in triggers is a rework by either TT Shooter or Clark. A bit more $ than one of the good drop-in DIY kits but the end result is much nicer. I like my reworked ones better than the full TG2000 from Volquartsen.
Now it's not just improving the trigger that's an important step in better performance. It's still a factory bbl with a factory cut chamber. Surely not match grade in either aspect. You can get the bbl re-cut which can do a LOT for it. Also, try different ammo and see which your particular gun prefers. A LOT of people simply pick Ammo A and expect it to shoot perfectly. Keeping the whole unit (receiver/bbl) tight within the stock is a biggie as well. Not familiar with the assembly and design of the SR22 specifically so that part could be difficult.
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Thanks! I will check out some of those options. Good to talk to someone with experence building 10 22!!
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Personally I don't see a need for any less than 2.5 lbs of trigger pull in a gun that's not benched or used in competition. I like having at least a little bit of feedback from my plinking gun triggers and since I often let others shoot my plinkers and "fun guns", I feel much safer knowing that there's not a 6 oz trigger in them...
If I was building a race gun, a target competition gun, a bench gun or a long range varmint gun then I'd probably spend the extra money on the KIDD or something like it; but not for a range gun, "backyard" gun or a plinker.

Soooooooo.....
I recently installed the Volquartsen target hammer kit in one of my 10-22's and installed a Power Custom adjustable hammer and sear kit in one of my others (actually today). For ease of install and overall value, the VQ is the best bang for the buck you can get at about $35-$45 and maybe 1/2 hour worth of work. The pull is drastically reduced and the break is pretty clean, but you still get quite a bit of take up or "creep" which is not adjustable with the VQ. For a every day range gun, it's a no brainer and an outstanding improvement over stock.

The Power Custom is a matched hammer and sear along with a complete spring kit. the sear provides you with a set screw that enables you to adjust trigger pre-travel (or creep, take up, etc...). It's a very complete kit and includes all the springs as well as "cheater pins" to assist with set up and install. It, like the VQ, also reduces the weight of pull to about 2-2.5 lbs, but the added adjustment makes a world of difference in overall feel.
This is not exactly the easiest kit to install for the novice as it requires you to drill a small hole in the trigger itself, but if your up to the task, the end result is a very nice, low drag, glass break trigger with a nice consistent pull weight and break. The directions suck, so if you think you'd need directions to install a trigger kit in a 10-22, you may want to either pass on this one or have someone give you a hand with it. I'm a pretty experienced armorer and this kit took me about an hour to get squared away where as the VQ takes me about 15 minutes to install.
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Old March 10th, 2011, 10:16 AM   #5
 
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I build LTRs for use at Appleseed events. The OEM parts can be made to work better than the drop ins. In fact, one of my customers just sent me his trigger group with a high end drop in for me to tweak. He says mine is better then what he bought.

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I just ordered and installed the Volquartsen on my 10 22 sporter.It made a huge difference.I went through a bunch of these little rifles and setteled on this one.It is by far the most accurate of any I had before.Still it is not a match grade gun,and this was the best improvement I could find for the money.Ordered from Gun Kings 33.00 delivered,and took only 3 days to get it.I see folks spend big bucks on these,but for me ,I would put that kind of money in a true match gun,like a Winchester 75 or 52.Just cant beat those old bolt guns.Be safe.
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I put in a volquartsen hammer. $40 and it drops the pull to ~2.5 lbs. still not real crisp but I can shoot ~1" at 50 yards off a sandbag rest now with federal bulk and tech-sights.
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I went with a hornet trigger assembly for my target rifle and for the money, about a hundred bucks, I couldn't be happier with it.
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Hey guys, so i ended up buying the drop in KIDD trigger. Holy Smokes!! what a difference, the trigger is set to 14oz. 7oz in the first stage and 7oz on the second stage! Talk about a hair trigger, my groups at 100 yards look like my old groups at 50 yards. My SR 22 shoots better than I ever could have thought!
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Now get the bbl reworked and see it shoot even better.
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How should I go about that? OR what would you recommend? Thanks for your time!!!
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Sorry, whats a bbl? Short for something, I assume. New to the language.
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And this has what to do with triggers???
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Well Hotchkiss, suppressors are illegal in Canada. They are classified as prohibited. Flash hiders are also prohibited, but "muzzle brakes" are fine. The difference is flash hiders reduce muzzle flash when shooting at night(which is also illegal), muzzle brakes reduce muzzle flip which will ad in a more accurate shot! They look the same, there are small differences in design. As far as getting your barrel threaded I would go with a GOOD gunsmith who knows what he\she is doing. Buy the gun first and then see how much you really want to spend!!! I bought a SR 22 almost a year ago and started doing mods, it gets pricey. Look at internals of the gun when you start to upgrade, makes for a much more accurate rifle!! Good luck
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Well, those are things I didn't know. I knew there was some difference between suppressors and hiders and brakes, but had the faintest clue about the legalities of it all.
Thank you for the info.
If you know of any gunsmiths in southern Alberta, please relay that info to me? Thanks.
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