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Old April 28th, 2017, 05:25 AM   #1
 
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NEW Ruger 22 Integrally Suppressed Barrel

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Fits 10/22 Takedown, 10/22 Takedown Lite, and 22 Charger Pistol.
MSRP: $629




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Old April 28th, 2017, 05:50 AM   #2
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Pretty cool offering from Ruger. Reviews will be fun to watch.
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Its nice to see Ruger offering things like this, BUT without sights, or any way to attach an optic to the barrel, its a FAIL in my opinion. The Takedown design needs the sighting system attached to the barrel. They just dont have a rigid enough barrel attachment system to operate correctly with regard to staying in zero, and returning to zero when dis/reassembled. Thanks Ruger... PASS.
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I agree with weblance .... just not a good combination. In fact it reminds me of Ruger's light weight centerfire Mod 77 from a few decades ago. It did not come with sights .... meaning you must mount a scope which defeats the very purpose of a light weight rifle.

I think something at the factory gets lost between engineering and practical use. No doubt, the Integrally Suppressed Barrel is nifty .... but it would have a way better application on a regular (non-takedown) 10/22.
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I think it's great for its intended use. A range toy. Shooting soda pop cans and paper without as much noise pollution. I don't think adjusting your scope a few clicks after reassembly is that much of a hassle. Maybe no different than adjusting after adding a suppressor to a barrel.
Ruger probably doesn't want to offer a firearm already equipped with sound suppressing abilities.

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Probably a stupid question but, since suppressor is in the barrel, does that mean you don't need the forms and tax stamp with the long wait?
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Probably a stupid question but, since suppressor is in the barrel, does that mean you don't need the forms and tax stamp with the long wait?
It'll need a tax stamp. I wonder if Ruger is hoping for the passing of the Hearing Protection Act. That, or they figure they can get a piece of the suppressor pie regardless.
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I think it's great for its intended use. A range toy. Shooting soda pop cans and paper without as much noise pollution. I don't think adjusting your scope a few clicks after reassembly is that much of a hassle. Maybe no different than adjusting after adding a suppressor to a barrel.
Ruger probably doesn't want to offer a firearm already equipped with sound suppressing abilities.
The problem isnt just adjusting a few clicks each time you dis/reassemble the barrel. The Takedown system isnt robust enough to hold a true zero from shot to shot. Each time the rifle cycles, the barrel shifts ever so slightly. The result...? "C" shaped groups. The Takedown, in factory form is only accurate enough to be a plinker. Its not capable of precision target work. I have 2 Takedowns, neither would perform anywhere near that of my standard 10/22s. Ruger took the cheap way out with the Takedown. They simply offered it with a sight mount on the receiver. Simply drilling, and tapping the barrel for an optic mount, like the Browning SA-22, or a system similar to an AR where the receiver and barrel were rigidly mounted together, and they could have solved the issues with the Takedown.
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Again I agree with weblance ..... shot-to-shot accuracy or off/on repeatability with a receiver mounted scope sure isn't what I would expect out of rifle that cost more than a k buck.

There's no reason why Ruger couldn't offer a suppressed barrel for a normal 10/22 .... other companies sell a host of different barrels from super light to heavy bull barrels. Yes, it takes a few more minutes to mount a barrel on a standard 10/22 but when you do, there is no mount related accuracy issues .... only a class 3 tax stamp.

As noted by weblance ..... a lesson from the past. I have an old Browning SA-22 and just recently bought a scope base for it. The base mounts directly on the barrel .... no other mounting hardware needed except rings. I can take the barrel off and put it back on with 100% confidence it will hit where I'm aiming. Further, shot-to-shot performance is excellent .... typically under 1" groups at 75 yards .... sometimes even better. My Browning is pretty much a garbage eater .... not fussy about ammo but it does favor CCI Mini-Mags.

My 10/22 TD was the least accurate 22 rifle I own ... and I do own quite a few. Iron sights are OK because they move with the barrel but when I put a nice Nikon rimfire scope on it, I was sure disappointed. Later I bought a Volquartsen cantilever scope base, drilled and tapped a couple holes in the barrel, and I now have a scoped 10/22 TD that shoots decent. It's still a factory 10/22 barrel so I don't expect miracles but at least it will hold a fair sized group.
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That's interesting and unfortunate. I'm glad mine doesn't show signs of that problem with a receiver mounted scope. Weblance, why were you expecting it to be a precision target rifle? That seems like a pretty unrealistic expectation for the type of firearm. I bought it for vermin and plinking. It's great for its intended use. From my experience with my own rifle anyway.
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As a side note one of the things ATF is rethinking is the supressor regs according to an official there.

ATF: 21st Century Suppressor Regulations are 'Archaic' - Breitbart
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In the end a great discussion and many good points and I concur with them. But being able to plink steel with a red dot in the backyard without disturbing the neighbors.. Pattern on the iron, or little relevance. I'm just focusing on the fun factor.

FYI I live on 5 acres and have a great hill for a backstop.
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That's interesting and unfortunate. I'm glad mine doesn't show signs of that problem with a receiver mounted scope. Weblance, why were you expecting it to be a precision target rifle? That seems like a pretty unrealistic expectation for the type of firearm. I bought it for vermin and plinking. It's great for its intended use. From my experience with my own rifle anyway.
The standard Ruger 10/22 is very accurate, despite what the expert riflemen will tell you on the internet. I have two factory stock non-Takedown 10/22s that will shoot one ragged hole groups all day long, rested at 25 yards, and 1/2" groups at 50 yards rested. Both my Takedowns shot patterns that looked like a shotgun blast at 25 yards rested. A rifle should shoot like a rifle, not like a shotgun. When I say precision, Im talking about one ragged hole, all day long. Life is too short to shoot guns that aren't accurate.

Now be honest... what type of groups are you, and your takedown capable of, rested at 50 yards? IF it wont shoot into a 1/2" with the ammo it likes best, and go back to perfect point of aim/impact after dis/reassembly, then you have an issue.
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When I mentioned adjusting a scope a few clicks, I was referring to barrel swapping with the ISB. Hence why I suggested that maybe after installing the ISB it would be no different than adding a suppressor to a threaded barrel and adjusting for its poi.

I never said 10/22s weren't accurate. Why would one assume a 10/22TD would be as accurate as a nonTD 10/22?

My 10/22 TD doesn't shift poi after reassembly.
I don't bench rest. I can shoot out the center of a target (an inch?). With rounds of the brands it likes at 50 yards while leaning across a junk S-10's hood. It's unfortunate your rifle performs so poorly. That's definitely not normal. If I were you I'd send it to Ruger.
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