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Old April 21st, 2017, 02:32 PM   #1
 
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Question FTF/FTE issues with a brand new rifle

I am new to the 10/22 scene, so please forgive me if this has been asked already. I have seen numerous posts about feed and extraction issues, but nothing quite close enough to what I'm experiencing that has a satisfying answer.

My 10/22 is new. Like, brand new - I got it about 3 weeks ago. So far, I think I have about 400 - 500 rounds through it. It's the standard, most basic model available.

Anyway, I'm having a ton of FTF/FTE issues, and I'm not sure what to do about it.

After the initial cleaning and oiling, I took it to the range and put 100 rounds of Winchester Super X through it with the stock 10 round magazine. I had 3 feed failures, which I thought was very odd for a brand new rifle.

A week later, and after cleaning, I took it out for another 100 rounds. These were all subsonic rounds, Federal, if memory serves. Unexpectedly, these rounds all fed and extracted perfectly. You'd think if I was going to have any FTF/FTE, it would be with these, but that was not the case.

Another week goes by, and I take it out again, after cleaning. I can't remember exactly what ammo I shot, but this time, the FTF count jumped to 8/100 rounds. I shot these out of some new BX-25s that I picked up. This time, however, each FTF was accompanied by a FTE as well. I'd end up with a live round, and an empty casing, both sitting cock-eyed in my action.

4th time out, 100 rounds of Remington "Golden Bullet" 22s. Same results.

I've heard people state that the 10/22 may have some issues during its break-in period, but this seems excessive to me. Especially because the problem seems to be getting worse, I'm starting to worry.

Is there something that I could be doing wrong, or is it time to call Ruger Customer Service?

Thanks for reading through all that!



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Old April 21st, 2017, 03:14 PM   #2
 
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It's possible the chamber has some crud built up in it. Try giving the chamber a good cleaning with solvent and a brass brush. I hesitate to say it might also be the ammo. I had the same problem with my 10/22 and Winchester Super X. It runs like a sewing machine on anything else.
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Well, I've been trying to keep it as clean as I can, though. I'm usually pretty obsessive about it, actually. Like with my other guns, I usually try to keep them as clean as when they were new!

But, that said, perhaps you're right. I'll give everything a very thorough scrubbing next time, more so than normal, and we'll see if that helps
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I'm suprised you haven't found anything posted close to your experience. Your experience sounds pretty typical. At least, this is exactly what happened to me.

Winchester and RGB have never been very reliable. I've had better luck with CCI. However, it took me at least 1,000 rounds to break in the action.

There are some inexpensive after-market upgrades you can do that may marginally improve things.

Another thing to think about is using a dry lub. Over-lubrication can cause the action to get fouled up.

I've had my 10/22 for three years. I shoot it often. It has become every bit the right rifle that was promised. But, not without some growing pains.


Clean the action about every 100 rounds to start. But, don't clean the barrel unless you have visible fouling or accuracy problems. My 10/22 always shoots like crap after I clean the barrel.


Good luck.

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I bought a Volquartsen 10-22 extractor and that ended my ftf/fte issues
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I bought a Volquartsen 10-22 extractor and that ended my ftf/fte issues
I was going to suggest that very thing.
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Super X

Had the same problem with Super X HV in my 10/22. For the price I like CCI Standard Velocity. Very accurate for cheap amo.
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I picked up a 10/22 TD last week and it was flawless with 4 different types of ammo from standard velocity to high velocity (but I only shot 100 rds). I was shooting Fed AE, CCI SV, CCI MiniMags and Remington Golden Bullet 36g (bulk 525pk).

Some recommended polishing the inside of the receiver with scotchbrite (green) and using dry lube if you have a lot of stovepiping. I used some #0000 steel wool and dry lube on mine because no one ever complained of an action being too smooth, right? It definitely made a noticeable difference and the bolt slides back much smoother.

The other issue is with BX-25 mags. The magazine catch spring is a bit weak and causes the mag to move enough to cause FTFeed. There's a mod to shave the mag release lever to allow the catch to sit a bit farther out of the trigger group housing for a more solid hold on the BX-25 mag.
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Weird but my 10/22 will only operate correctly with the 10 round rotary mags, anything else causes feeding issues. Mine also likes standard velocity ammo like CCi 1025's the high velocity stuff causes FTE for me.
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FWIW, I bought 10/22TD in March 2015. We have 10 10rd magazines (3x3 clipped together with the Alangator connector), 3 15rd magazines, and 3 25rd magazines, all Ruger/factory. We have probably put 15,000 rounds or so through it during the 2+ years we've had it.

Honestly, I don't know that we've ever had an FTF/FTE issue with any of the 10rd box magazines. We have had the occasional issue with a 15rd magazine, but we prefer them to the 25rd mags because we almost expect to see some problem when we use them, even though we rarely load them with more than 20rds. Even when new, this was the case.

We have used all different makes and types of info, but most of it has been high-velocity and lots of that, CCI, Winchester, Remington, Federal, a fair amount of Aguila and Armscor, and a smattering of some others.

Keeping the gun clean definitely helps (even though I don't do it as often as I should). Replacing worn out extractor-claw(s) with a harder one from VQ or whomever definitely helps. I've read that taking apart the mags, cleaning them, and adjusting the spring/tension helps, but I haven't done that yet. I've also read that some folks think, regarding the 25rd mags, it might an issue with the strength of the spring over the length of the magazine and/or alignment/curvature of the magazine.

Maybe I'll get around to cleaning and adjusting one of them, as a little experiment, to see if it then operates more reliably.

So, although I can't argue/prove it statistically, based on my barely more than 2 years of shooting, my view is that something can and does happen with those long magazines. Now, I'm no expert nor a gunsmith, but that's my perception and, as my wife has been telling me for years, "perception, dear, is reality"!

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