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Old July 1st, 2010, 05:14 AM   #1
 
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Question What Model Ruger 10/22 to PURCHASE?

I am a newbie when it comes to Ruger 10/22's and I am in the market of purchasing one. What model sold by Ruger is the preferred model 10/22 to purchase, if in the future, I would want to upgrade it. I see there are thousands of upgrades for this gun and I just wanted to know I am buying the correct version of the 10/22 that is upgradable. I see some have a barrel band and some don't, not sure if this mattered. Thanks in advance for your help!



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Old July 1st, 2010, 05:36 AM   #2
 
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Welcome,
If you are going to upgrade your new purchase get the cheapest you can find. My latest was from Sports Authority for 189.00 last X-mas. shop around.
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Ha, welcome. I like the emphasis on purchase? Well would you like it for action shooting? Target? Varmint? Wall hanger? My very favorite version that needs very little upgrading (primarily the trigger) is the 10/22LVT. It is Varmint purposed gun that rivals the 10/22T in the accuracy dept. The 10/22 Tactical is a 10/22 Target with a shorter barrel (16" vs 20") and a hogue overmold stock (probably one of the upgrades you would have made anyhow). The barrel band in theory hurts accuracy, but I have heard of some people actually getting tighter groups with it. IMHO, scrap the barrel band. The most "upgradible" version of the 10/22 is the 10/22 carbine (basic 10/22). Do some googleing to see which one you want, Gunbroker.com is also a good place to search.
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I have a 10/22 carbine. And I love it. My nephew and I plink water bottles on the burm at 60+ yards. Then chase them back up when the water drains out and they roll down. But like Rugerismisticness said it depends on what you want to use it for.
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Thanks guys for all your input. So, from the sounds of it, it really doesn't matter which one you purchase because when you start upgrading it you could pretty much change just about anything anyway, am I correct?
If you buy one with the barrel band, are you always stuck with that band or during the process of upgrading (stock and/or barrel) you can eliminate the need for it? I do like the look of the barrel band. Does it matter if I get a 16" or 20" barrel?
I am not sure yet as to how I am going to use it. Probably mostly just target shooting for now, it is mostly what I do. I want to try to go in as cheaply as possible and as time goes on I would like to try out some of the upgrades. Any suggestions as to what I must get as an upgrades once getting it?
Sorry for all the questions but thanks again everyone for your help, I am looking forward to getting one.
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The barrel band is removable. Honestly, get the 18" barrel. Much private research has been done to conclude that longer barrels than 20" in blowback actions actually low down the bullet (unless it is hypervelocity ammo, slower burning powder). Also, in theory short barrels are more accurate being less affected by vibrations.

I suggest you go with a 10/22 carbine, then buy;
Hogue stock
Butler creek Steel lips 25rnd mag
make your own auto bolt release
take the reciever finish off the inside of the reciever
lightly radius the bolt
buy a Centerpoint 4-16x40mm scope or a red dot (depending on usage)
look at threads on how to pressure bed the action
you will want to search other forums at Rimfirecentral for other questions

Good Luck
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I'd get the Carbine, as was said, you are going to change almost everything and there are better barrels, stocks, etc. than the stock more expensive models that Ruger puts out.

If you could find an older one that has not been shot much so it does not have a lot of receiver wear, that is what I would look for.
If you can't find a lightly used Carbine, just get a new one, save your $$$ and get to work.

You can turn it into what ever type of rifle that you want and find what really fits you the best.

Be sure to ask on the forum about different parts, the guys here know what is the best and what works. There is a lot of really sharp people on this site who will help and tell you where you can get the best prices.

Enjoy, John K

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Thank you for your help, I will look for a Carbine. I see the newer ones being produced have changed a little from the older ones, which is better or doesn't it matter? What is a good price for a Carbine version?
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The barrel band is removable. Honestly, get the 18" barrel. Much private research has been done to conclude that longer barrels than 20" in blowback actions actually low down the bullet (unless it is hypervelocity ammo, slower burning powder). Also, in theory short barrels are more accurate being less affected by vibrations.

I suggest you go with a 10/22 carbine, then buy;
Hogue stock
Butler creek Steel lips 25rnd mag
make your own auto bolt release
take the reciever finish off the inside of the reciever
lightly radius the bolt
buy a Centerpoint 4-16x40mm scope or a red dot (depending on usage)
look at threads on how to pressure bed the action
you will want to search other forums at Rimfirecentral for other questions

Good Luck
I don't know about that "shorter is better" argument you proffer based on vibrations. Ar rifles come in 14.5 through 24 inch barrel lengths typically, and the guys who want extreme accuracy always go with the longer barrels.....which is totally contrary to your claim. 18 inches is the preferred "compromise" gun for AR's wanting better accuracy along with portability, though 20 inchers are common as well. Varminters like the 24 inchers, which can't be accurate like a 16 inch barrel, right?

Now as far as 22lr goes, anything over 20 inches is probably a waste of metal, the powder has finished burning and you are actually slowing down the projectile. 16 inches is probably a bit short, again that 18 inch number is likely the best "medium" barrel to go with. You usually see 16 inch barrels in 22lr because they can be bull barrelled and still not be overly heavy, and they don't give up any measurable difference in accuracy.

Of course, an 8 inch barrel ought to be much more vibration free than a 16 inch barrel, but they just aren't that accurate. Go figure.
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I actually have got my Carbine shooting so well now, that the only other change I will make is to re cut the chamber with a Bentz chamber, I can have it done for $45.00 or buy the reamer for $50.00 and do it myself, I'll get the reamer.
I got one of those freek barrels that really shoots.

With the adjustable pads I installed in the stock, free floating, bolt mods, etc, it's shooting great.
I have put almost zero money into it and when done, I will give the guys who have 4 times the money in their 10-22 a good run for their money. I know it will out shoot most any stock target model.

Taking time to get things as perfect as can be makes a difference.
Getting rid of the factory problems and tollerance problems makes on heck of a difference.
If I can get consistant low .2" groups, and I know I can, I'll spend the money on my Mini's and Savage Bolt guns and be far ahead.

It may not look as trick, but I'm pretty sure that I will outshoot many of the pretty guns with a Carbine. That will be far more fun.

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Thank you for your help, I will look for a Carbine. I see the newer ones being produced have changed a little from the older ones, which is better or doesn't it matter? What is a good price for a Carbine version?
A new carbine runs about $200.00 here. As far as new versus old I'm not sure. I know when I bought mine, a year and a half ago, the paint on the inside of the receiver started to come away but didn't seem to affect shooting. I just cleaned it out real good after each shooting session and now have very little paint left in the receiver. I don't know if Ruger has done anything to rectify the issue. If you can find an older one in good shape it may be cheaper.
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The difference between the older and newer carbines are the receiver, trigger and mag relaease are made of plastic.
In my opinion, the metal one's were better and looked better also.
If you look at the parts inside of the trigger group, you will find some cast parts such as the hammer. The old one's had machined parts made from billet steel, also better. At some point they went from a billet bolt to a cast bolt. The tollerances were better with the machined bolt.
The new one's also have a plastic band and front sight VS. metal.

Ruger is saving money with the changes they have made, but in my opinion not built a better rifle.

I'd look for a minty metal receiver 10-22 with as little use as possible.
You will most likely just end up using the trigger housing and some of the parts. If you really get into it, you will replace most of the other parts anyway to personelize the rifle to you and your needs, but I like the metal parts and dislike the internal cast parts, just one persons opinion.
If all you can find a good used one, get the plastic one and start working on it. It will be fine.

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The bottom line is that everyone has an opinion and we all know about those...

The real deal is go look at different versions of the 10/22 and find out which one speaks to you........then buy it. Once it is yours, shoot it and enjoy it. If you start to feel the need to modify it, have fun because the sky is the limit!

And that is my opinion!
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I finally got a Ruger 10/22 Carbine. It is actually my Christmas gift for this year but I was allowed to shoot it 1 day to make sure all was good before it got wrapped. I loved it. I went to a local gun range with my father and after shooting my M1 Garand a few times, I took it to the .22 range. It was awesome! They had small pieces of L shaped steal pieces set up on a cross bar and I was hitting them almost every shot right from the factory site settings.
Now, I am probably going to only replace the stock and barrel, what is the best stock and barrel to get for target shooting, not necessarily competition? To give you an idea of what I like look wise, I saw Cabela's had a Laminated Stock (reddish):

"Keystone Sporting Arms Revolution Extreme 10/22 Thumbhole Stock" for $169.99
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot..._SEQ_104815080

".920" Black Tactical Solutions Barrel with a threaded tip" for $249.99
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shoot..._SEQ_104815080

Are they any good, or is there something better for about the same money? I don't want to break the bank.
Thanks in advance for your help!

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As pointed out by others, just get the basic carbine for $180...there are soooooo many aftermarket parts out there, you can rebuild the entire gun.
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