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Old October 3rd, 2016, 03:50 PM   #1
 
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Potential Ruger Noob... looking into TakeDowns

Evening all...
M&P 15-22 owner here, but seriously considering getting a 10/22 Takedown and adding an integrated suppressed barrel. I figured I would stop in and see whats what and "get my learn on" as Chris Rock would say. I'll prob lurk a lot but, thanks ahead of time!



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Old October 3rd, 2016, 05:01 PM   #2
 
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Welcome to the forum. Lots of 10/22 shooters here. I hope you enjoy the new take-down model. A suppressed one sounds fun.
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mdoffroad... WELCOME. I would caution you going all out on an integral barrel for the Takedown. The problem is with a receiver mounted optic, there are issues. The barrel doesn't go back perfectly to the same point when the gun is dis/reassembled. Maybe some do, but just as many dont. Mine didnt. I went through every trick trying to get mine to shoot correctly, short of sending it back to Ruger, and it just wasn't shooting like a rifle should. IMHO, the only way the Takedown shoots correctly is if the sighting system(scope, dot, or open sights)is attached to the barrel. I now have 2 different Takedowns, and the both shoot like rifles should. One has a cantilever barrel with scope, the other has a threaded open sight barrel.

Reconsider the integral barrel. Go with a standard threaded suppressor. Get the Volquartsen cantilever barrel, and mount your optic. You WILL be pleased with the results.

Here is a picture of my scoped Takedown

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By cantilever barrel, I'm assuming you mean the rail is mounted to the barrel, not the receiver, so that theoretically it will not lose zero? I was wondering about how well the rifles returned to zero if they separated like that....
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@weblance, does the rifle still fit int he factory case with that mounting system?
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Yes, the cantilever barrel has the scope rail attached. The scope stays with the barrel when the rifle is taken apart.

No, with this setup, the rifle does not fit the original takedown bag. The barrel with mount(without the scope)is 18 1/2" the same length as the Takedown original barrel. The issue is how far the scope overhangs the end. With quick detach scope rings, and removing the scope, everything would fit the original bag. I use standard rings, and a BlackHawk! Diversion rifle case to transport my Takedown. I can leave the scope, and suppressor attached to the barrel, and it fits nicely. I have used quick detach rings before on another rifle, and they work well. They retain point of zero when removed, and reinstalled. I chose not to bother removing the scope every time I wanted to transport the rifle, but they are an option if you really want to use the original bag. IF you use a smaller scope, and put the scoped barrel into the pocket the Buttstock/receiver was designed for, and the buttstock/receiver in the barrel pocket, the Volquartsen cantilever barrel WITH THE SCOPE ATTACHED, will fit the Ruger Takedown bag. I wanted a large scope on my Takedown so I went a different direction with my carry bag. First pic is a picture of the BlackHawk! Diversion rifle case I use for my Takedown.

I have another threaded Takedown, Its one of the TALO Exclusive French Walnut models. I obtained a Ruger factory threaded barrel for it, because none of the aftermarket threaded barrels except the Tactical Solutions BULL barrel have open sights, and this TALO Exclusive model isnt available with a threaded barrel. I mention this gun because its another option that shoots correctly because the sighting system stays with the barrel. Its a nice setup, and actually fits in a Galati International Takedown rifle case. The Galati case is much smaller than the original Ruger Takedown case. The rifle fits in the Galati with the suppressor attached.


If you decide to go with a threaded Ruger Takedown, Model 11138 seems to be the most economical. It has an easily removed thread protector, and the correct threads for a screw on suppressor, 1/2x28 .400 You could then buy the Volquartsen cantilever barrel WITH the forearm(you can buy it with, or without the forearm)and have the best of both worlds, scoped, and open sights. Just a suggestion.






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In would echo what weblance said. My scoped 10/22 takedown isn't nearly as accurate as my conventional 10/22 with the same scope. It's all due to the ever so slight movement between the barrel and receiver. I have tightened the barrel nut on mine to a point where it was almost impossible to remove the barrel, yet it still grouped a bit loose.

As for the bag .... many people get all upset about the gun fitting in the Ruger 10 buck bag that is poorly designed to begin with. Yes, you can remove the scope and everything will fit but my question is why? I just can't see jumping through hoops with the rifle just so it will fit in the crumby bag.

My suggestion .... unless a takedown is a priority, go with a standard 10/22. If you insist on a takedown and want to scope it, get the cantilever scope base and attach it to the barrel then find a different case.
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Well, I ended up with the 11100 model in a GREAT deal...
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Awesome! Enjoy your new 10/22!
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it came with an additional stock, the Tacstar M4 in Kryptek camo, a UTG bipod and a Decent scope. I think its going to get dropped into a Magpul HunterX, unless I find a better option, but, I am not so sure I want to scope this thing, The fiber optic sites are nice!

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I welcome you. I hate to burst your bubble but are suppressors legal in Maryland? I would think not but Icould be wrong. They are illegal in Nj.
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@bwinters, Yep, totally legal in MD, just gotta do the NFA tax stamp
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Pardon my ignorance, but I thought suppressors required NFA tax stamps. From the old school and just been shooting my only 10/22 since I bought it the second year Ruger offered them. Boy, I got a lot of catching up to do.

I looked at a camo 10/22 TD today and am getting the urge to buy it. It has a flash suppressor on it.
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Ok so let me make sure IM understanding all this LOL, IM about to venture into the 10/22 world as well, so my plan was to get a take down model and a gemtech take down suppressor. But should I just go with a standard non take down? and a gemetch integral? or just ditch the whole integral deal and go with a standard 10/22 with the threads.
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I ended up with the Takedown with the flash hider on it and dropped it into Magpul Hunter TakeDown stock. LOVE the feel!
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