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Old August 3rd, 2009, 10:02 AM   #1
 
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continuing 10-22 bolt release problem

I need so more advice here. I have posted messages some time ago regarding a continuing problem with my 10-22 bolt release. I have opened the factory hole with a dremel as was suggested by many to no avail, then I replaced the factory release with an after market release, again to no avail. For whatever reason the release seems to "bind" in position and only works when the pins are removed in the trigger housing. My last time at the range I accidentally hit the release and the bolt locked open so I had to put the 10-22 away until I got home and was able to take it apart and release the bolt.

I DO NOT want to return it to the factory as I have it somewhat customized, and it is my understanding they will not deal with any customized weapons.

I am now considering removing the release altogether. The drawback being I could not lock the bolt open. The only time this would be a problem would be when I return from the range and need to clean the weapon, at which time I usually take the entire weapon apart to clean anyway. At the range, if necessary when the range is "safe" I can insert a plastic tab or something to indicate the weapon will not fire.



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Old August 3rd, 2009, 10:44 AM   #2
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PWKARCH, Just to make sure we are singing the same tune .... here's how the bolt lock is supposed to work: The bolt lock is not automatic and does not lock the bolt back after the last round in the magazine has been fired. It is manually operated by pulling the bolt lock tip back like a trigger then pulling the bolt back until it latches. To release, again pull the bolt back and push the top of the bolt lock in and up. This should rock the latch and release the bolt.

If yours doesn't work like this, please explain what's different so we can trouble shoot. In most cases, the tricky little bugger is working right but doesn't work like the owner thinks it should.
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I bought one of the automatic releases and sinse then I have modified the original ones to be automatic. I used the boughten one for a pattern. Did you have one for a pattern?

The first one I did for myself caused a problem until I got it cut just like the boughten one. You might want to make sure that the release moves freely in the trigger housing. If it is binding at all it will not work. Also make sure that you have the spring hooked properly.

Just a few of the small problems I had in making my own release. Never had a problem with the one that I bought.
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It does not work at all. Believe me when I tell you we have tried everything. Once locked open, the release will not allow the breach to close.....no matter what I do. Then, the only way to close the breach is to break down the weapon and disassemble the trigger / lock mechanism. The spring is installed correctly, the gun operates fantastically except for the bolt lock. I want to simply remove the bolt lock for now. When I return from my range, I usually completely tear the gun down, clean, and reassemble. This has been this way since day one with this piece.
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PWKARCH, Don't know what to say .... without the gun in my hands it's hard to trouble shoot. There just can't be a hard problem for such a simple part.
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I hate my 10/22 bolt latch.. What does the automatic latch do different than the factory version?
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Old August 11th, 2009, 08:17 AM   #7
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twinwillows, There are two types of "automatic bolt latches" for the 10/22. The first type requires replacing the current latch with a special latch then using a specially designed magazine. When fully modified, the 10/22 bolt will lock back after the last round and can be released easily .... very similar in operation to a MK II or MK III pistol. A very expensive modification ... especially if you want a few extra magazines.

The second type really isn't automatic at all. It is a simple latch replacement that has been modified. With this latch, locking the bolt back is identical .... just hold the latch like a trigger and pull the bolt back. To release, just pull the bolt back and let go ... the latch will release without touching it.

You can modify your factory bolt latch and make it just like the second type with just a file or Dremmel tool. The photo shows a factory latch and a modified latch. You can file the raised area flat for automatic release.
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There ia a spring that holds the bolt release under tension, perhaps it is under the flange instead of on top.
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Ranking as a second grader in 10-22/1A, whe I did the mod, it did not work. It finally worked when I took the release and used a file to do away with any high places, burrs, or sharp edges. You can't hurt the thing, so tear into it.
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Not sure if you're still experiencing the issue, but I began to have similar difficulties after cleaning my 10/22. Th bolt would lock open without any regard to the bolt latch. Then, if it closed, it would lock/work intermittently. After about the third time I took it apart and cleaned/inspected it, I noticed that the bolt retaining pin was not there ( I think it was B-46 in the exploded carbine diagram). Well, I found it, and it was so loose that it just slid out when I was clening the gun. Not sure how I missed it the first couple times, but figured I'd pass along the obvious.
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I have made this mod to my 10/22, opening up the hole on the original Ruger part. When finished and re-installed into the receiver, it failed to work. It drove me NUTZ! until I finally found the fault.

It's not the bolt release, or the new hole. I have also installed an extended mag release. In my case, the mag release was interfering with the bolt release. One side is cut with a relief slot for the mag release. This is where the hang up is. The cut needs to be made a bit larger for the extra movement of the newly modified bolt release.

You have to look very closely to spot this, but it's there. It's easy to fix.

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When my 10/22 was new it was a bugger to get the latch to release. A few times I had to remove the magazine to get the latch to release. It works a lot smoother now after a bit of break in. I do like the idea of mod #2 above and may try that in the future
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I've done the MOD on my factory "Bolt Hold Open" Like the 2nd pic Iowegan posted & it's been 100% from day one..
It's much handier to just pull back on the bolt handle to release than to fumble with the little switch..
Took about 30 seconds with the dremel tool to do, I even polished & cold blued mine..
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Hi guys. I'm new to the forum but have been a Ruger fan since I bought my first gun ( A Standard model ) for $47.00. It's since been passed on to my son. I modified it with factory target walnut grips, adjustable sights, extended mag. release and a trigger with an over travel stop. After approx. 20-25,000 rounds put through it, I could continually put rounds into a target the size of a grapefruit. But I digress. I have a new 10/22 coming in a few days and I'm going to try the bolt stop mod. as well as a Hogue overmolded stock and a Yellow Jacket buffer stop for starters. If I run into any problems doing the mods, I will post them and whatever corrections I made. Looking forward to exchanging info and ideas through this forum. Keep your powder dry!
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I almost forgot to say thank you. I read this thread and opted for Iowegan's second option. Easy to do and flawless. Makes you wonder what Ruger is thinking issuing the rifle the way it is. In mine the bolt wouldn't release at all no matter what I did (a definite design flaw). I had to take it apart and find this thread for help.


IMPORTANT: I will add however, that in mine the mod only works reliably with the magazine in. This is very important while you are performing the mod, because if you have the magazine out (and good gun handling practice would mean that you do) you may not think the mod is working and you'll keep removing material. Check it with the mag in to see if its working before you proceed to far with the Dremel. In mine I can still get it to release with the magazine out but I have to lift up on the mag release a bit.

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