Mosin NagantThis is a discussion on Mosin Nagant within the Rifles forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; Anybody here have one? I keep seeing them at big 5 and such. As low as $75, which is hard to pass up. I read ...  |
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May 18th, 2008, 03:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maple Valley, WA, USA.
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Anybody here have one? I keep seeing them at big 5 and such. As low as $75, which is hard to pass up. I read that the Red Army used them as sniper rifles.
I guess my question is, would is be something I regret, even for under $100?
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May 18th, 2008, 09:11 PM
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Join Date: May 2008 Location: California
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I had an M38 and it shot 6" groups at 100yds. with iron sights. The M44 is the model that BIG 5 generally sells and it's a bit longer and has a side folder bayonet. It's very practical if you ever get the urge to run your target through.
They also sometimes sell the M91-30 which pre-dates the two models above. All of them shoot the 7.62x54R cartridge. The R stands for rimmed.
Yes, they were sometimes used as sniper weapons with special scopes and dedicated mounts. They're fun to shoot and they send about a three foot flame downrange.
Ammo's relatively inexpensive and available almost everywhere. Just remember they're Military Surplus and they were designed to hit a mansized target, not a little round bullseye at a range. That said, there's some good ones out there and some are definitely more accurate than others.
For lots of excellent info on them or most any Milsurp rifle, check out the Surplusrifle.com forum.
I hope this helps.
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May 19th, 2008, 06:13 AM
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I like the M44. the 91 is way too long.
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May 19th, 2008, 06:29 AM
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For the cost, Mosin Nagants can't be beat! I have bought and traded several over the years, and the are a hoot to shoot. The only problem is that they tend to multiply - one just isn't enough! There are so many types and variations available that you may end up addicted.
Ammo is relatively cheap, but most foreign military surplus ammo has corrosive primers, so clean accordingly. The M44 with side-folding bayonet can be found several places for under $100. Surplus ammo runs about 15-25 cents per round. If you buy the M44, be aware that it was sighted in with the bayonet extended. Shooting with the bayonet folded tends to move POI to the left on most M44s. As stated before, a three foot fireball is common, and recoil can be rather stout. Most of the surplus ammo has ballistics somewhere between a .308 and a 30-06 (147 grain bullet at about 2900 fps).
By all means, get one! The best bang for the buck going.
You may wish to check out the following sites for more info:
7.62x54r.net
mosinnagant.net
russian-mosin-nagant.com
Enjoy!
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May 20th, 2008, 11:56 AM
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They can be excellent guns. Look for one with a matching bolt and a nice bore. You may have to play with it, particularly stock bedding, to get it to shoot as well as you'd like, but they are capable of phenomenal accuracy for such a cheap gun.
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May 21st, 2008, 07:29 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southeast Georgia
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I have three, two 44's and a 91-30 all are good shooters and I don't think you'll be disappointed too much with any one of them.
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July 22nd, 2008, 05:13 AM
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I have a M44 I got for $80.00. It is fun to shoot and at fifty yards I can get 5 inch groups but at 100 yards I get 7 inch groups. The iron sights are a little hard for my eyes. The best part is the large fireball the short barrels produce.
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July 22nd, 2008, 11:49 AM
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RP
Get one now. These are fun guns to shoot just for the fact that thay are surplus and have been in a war is cool. Doing research on the rifle will expose you to the history of not only the rifle but of the world. People will ask you about it on the range because it looks old and forien. And best of all you will experience what a soldier felt while shoot this great rifle. These are not cheap rifles, they are just alarge quantity of surplus arms that flooded the market. If you think about it, thes rifles were made in the early part of the last centutry and probably only cost $35 or $40 to make, so it is like a 100% profit. I recommend this rifle for the fun factor alone, get yours today.
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July 22nd, 2008, 12:43 PM
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rp cavanaugh: Sir; I shoot the 91/30 and it's a hoot. Boooom and dust will fly.
Will have an M44 in the next couple of weeks. Would be sooner but I'll be out of town.
Order sealed tins of ammo. Cheaper; I happen to like the 183grn. Many are shooting the 14?grn.
100yds and any 'bambi' will have a problem getting up.
A heck of lot of information and history about the different variants is available. |
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July 22nd, 2008, 09:19 PM
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You may not get MOA accuracy from a Mosin but Minute of man is just as good.
Last edited by Bozack; July 22nd, 2008 at 09:23 PM.
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July 23rd, 2008, 02:41 PM
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Where can you get one of these? I'd love to have one, especially if they're that cheap!
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July 25th, 2008, 07:51 AM
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They are available from most gun dealers. Look for shops that have a large selection of surplus arms. As I have stated these are abundent and I have seen them in crates in stores. Good luck getting yours.
Phil
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August 20th, 2008, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rp_cavanaugh Anybody here have one? I keep seeing them at big 5 and such. As low as $75, which is hard to pass up. I read that the Red Army used them as sniper rifles.
I guess my question is, would is be something I regret, even for under $100? | My pal bought one at Big 5........I got to ckeck it out.........looked like it was never issued.....no nicks/dings......numbers matched. For the $ you can't beat them........plus what other members have said.
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August 25th, 2008, 11:13 AM
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If you do get one, make sure you clean it well. Especially the chamber. Some of these have been stored in cosmoline for a long time and the chambers are reallly sticky if you don't. I nearly had to use a hammer to work the bolt before I cleaned the cosmo out.
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August 26th, 2008, 10:47 AM
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Mosins are tough to beat in terms of enjoyment per $ spent. I have a 91/30 Tula and probably will pick-up an M-44 thorugh AIM or SOG later this year.
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