Ruger Forum

Savage Accustock vs Non-Accustock

This is a discussion on Savage Accustock vs Non-Accustock within the Rifles forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; Since there aren't many modern rifles chambered in 6.5x55 I thought I would purchase a .270 Win. I already have have reloading dies for it. ...


Go Back   Ruger Forum > Rifle & Shotgun Forum > Rifles

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes

Old April 15th, 2013, 08:44 AM   #1
 
pappekak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 284
pappekak is on a distinguished road
Savage Accustock vs Non-Accustock

Since there aren't many modern rifles chambered in 6.5x55 I thought I would purchase a .270 Win. I already have have reloading dies for it.

Does Savage's Accustock improve accuracy for the rifle or is it mostly marketing?

And what are your thoughts on Savage vs Tikka - Tikka seams pricey for what you get.



pappekak is offline  
Advertisements
Old April 15th, 2013, 11:19 AM   #2
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: S.W. Montana, USA.
Posts: 1,106
Frank V is on a distinguished road
I'd go with the Savage. They are developing a well deserved reputation for accuracy!
The accra-stock has bedding blocks in the stock that give an added stability to the bedding & causes the bedding to be more uniform.
I think Savage makes a very good rifle these days.
Frank V is offline  
Old April 15th, 2013, 11:26 AM   #3
 
BlueMountain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Endicott, NY
Posts: 4,730
BlueMountain is a jewel in the roughBlueMountain is a jewel in the roughBlueMountain is a jewel in the roughBlueMountain is a jewel in the rough
Savage has had a well deserved reputation for accuracy for quite some time. Go with the Savage.
BlueMountain is offline  
Old April 15th, 2013, 12:10 PM   #4
Retired Gunsmith
 
Iowegan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Blair, NE
Posts: 9,067
Iowegan is a jewel in the roughIowegan is a jewel in the roughIowegan is a jewel in the rough

Awards Showcase

Savage does indeed make a good rifle but they aren't in the same class as a Tikka T3. SAKO makes Tikka rifles (company is owned by Beretta). Tikkas are made to the same exacting standards as SAKOs just a few less frills. I doubt if you will find a smoother action in anything but a custom built rifle. Further, Tikkas are guaranteed to shoot 1 MOA or less right out of the box. They have the best scope mounts in the industry and have free floated barrels. There are many models to choose from ... stainless steel, blued, different stocks, barrels, and of course they are chambered in just about every popular rifle cartridge.
Iowegan is offline  
Old April 15th, 2013, 12:51 PM   #5
 
Spike12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,623
Spike12 will become famous soon enough
Personally I really like Savage as a company. I think they have always had a reputation for accuracy above their price point too.

I think if you look at history i think you'll find that their AccuTrigger kicked everyone else's butt and got the market to finally start improving their factory stock triggers.

Their Accustock, good or bad, (I think it's good) has done the same.

If you look at the Ruger American, you'll see a barrel nut. The same thing that everyone has looked down their nose at on Savage rifles for years.

Savage has a long and distinguished history and while I've never owned one, my grandfather certainly did and I'd never turn one away.
Spike12 is offline  
Old April 15th, 2013, 01:00 PM   #6
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,194
shuckinthecorn will become famous soon enough
If you are wanting a 6.5x55, you really should consider the 260 Remington, which Savage offers in several rifles. Check it out.
Yes, the Accustock is a good thing. I have a model 12 in 6BR that is the best shooting factory made rifle I've ever been exposed to. Savage seems to understand the importance of making good barrels.
shuckinthecorn is offline  
Old April 15th, 2013, 02:35 PM   #7
 
DQL5150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Virginia
Posts: 296
DQL5150 is on a distinguished road
My vote is Savage. Out of the box accurate and won't break the bank. Plus I like the logo.
DQL5150 is offline  
Old April 15th, 2013, 03:23 PM   #8
 
kiwihunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 4,519
kiwihunter is a jewel in the roughkiwihunter is a jewel in the roughkiwihunter is a jewel in the rough
Savage for sure i had a weather warrior in .223 with a accustock,it was a tackholer,the accustock improves rigidity in the synthetic stock.
Whilst Tikka are no doubt fine rifles....bang for buck in my books the Savage would win.
Apart from Ruger presently my favourite rifles are Brownings i currently own two X-Bolts and a T-bolt they are beautifully appointed rifles,both the X-bolts are very accurate with factory floating and bedding....the T-Bolt is currently waiting on a scope but from all accounts i believe that will also be a tack holer.

Last edited by kiwihunter; April 15th, 2013 at 03:32 PM.
kiwihunter is offline  
Old April 16th, 2013, 08:19 PM   #9
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: SE Washington
Posts: 367
Darkker is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by pappekak View Post
Does Savage's Accustock improve accuracy for the rifle or is it mostly marketing?

And what are your thoughts on Savage vs Tikka - Tikka seams pricey for what you get.
This is from a multiple decade Savage builder/user, I went through the bankruptcy years with them.

The accu-stock is pure marketing BS. Savage has LONG had one of the flimsiest chunks of sewer-pipe for a stock; there is a very good reason savage users call them "Tupperware". The accu-stock brings that same stock construction the additional rigidity of very thin sheet metal, think Tec-9 sear thin. It is very poorly attached, and fit is not good. They have a common habit of rubbing on the gun, independent of the stock, then cracking the sheet metal.
Savage (post bankruptcy) began to get a good reputation for good barrels, AT THAT PRICE POINT. That has been translated today, as they are fabulous shooters; which many are. My favorite 1,000 yard gun is an FP I bought in 97. But I have no illusion about what it is, and what it isn't.
They are $400 dollar guns.
Stevens? Same gun, same production lines, same specs. Stevens doesn't get "cheaper" parts.

Now don't get me wrong, they are great for what they are. They are a good value, but they aren't world class construction.
Darkker is offline  
Old April 16th, 2013, 08:42 PM   #10
 
Lead Slanger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 1,748
Lead Slanger is on a distinguished road
Just thought I'd throw this out there....if you're really wanting a 6.5 Swede, CZ has a nice one in their 550 rifle.
Lead Slanger is offline  
Old April 17th, 2013, 05:08 AM   #11
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Tahlequah, Oklahoma
Posts: 196
Telecaster is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by pappekak View Post
Since there aren't many modern rifles chambered in 6.5x55 I thought I would purchase a .270 Win. I already have have reloading dies for it.
Good reason to go with the .270.

Quote:
Does Savage's Accustock improve accuracy for the rifle or is it mostly marketing?
It probably doesn't improve accuracy by a significant amount but it should have an effect on consistency, zero retention, and likely doesn't make the rifles so equipped any LESS accurate than they would be without the feature.

I have only ever owned one Savage rifle -a Model 10 Sierra in .243. This had a 20", thin-profile barrel, blind magazine, and a Kevlar stock. It is not the "Walmart" Model 10 package gun and it wasn't cheap when new.

It grouped .550" as an average. With Winchester 100 gr. Power Points. Nothing modified other than installation of a 3 X 9 Leupold VX-1 in U.S.A. made Weaver strap-style tip-off ring mounts and aluminum Weaver bases.

Quote:
And what are your thoughts on Savage vs Tikka - Tikka seams pricey for what you get.
Tikkas aren't anything I'd have traded my Savage Model 10 Sierra for. They won't do anything my Ruger No.1B or M77RL Ultralight won't do.

The only thing I don't like about the Savage action is the bolt lift / cocking effort... It is significantly higher than a Remington Model 700, Ruger M77, and a host of other rifles. I do like the design of the action aside from that, though.

I'd rather have the Savage... I'd take the walnut stocked Classic in .250 Savage and will if I ever find one.

TC
Telecaster is offline  
Old April 17th, 2013, 05:50 AM   #12
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: FLORIDA
Posts: 47
Tonybagn is on a distinguished road
I looked at the savage .270 and the American..... I didnt really have a budget but I went with the American. Its simple and the bolt action was far smoother and more positive than the Savage... I really couldnt tell you the difference between the accutriger and the triger on the Ruger. they felt very similar. I spoke with a few people who have remington 700s savages and Rugers.... each pointed out the failings of each others rifles and also one or two failings of thier own rifles..... Why did I chose the ruger?? it felt better my hands I have small hands The Guys with the remmingtons really like them but didnt like the fact they didnt have a magazine... the savage owners said the finish could be better great accuracy but the logo falls off the stock and they have to tighten the screws etc alot or take them out and locktight them... the Ruger owners said..... its a gun ... its rugged and hard wearing... the magazine is a little flimsy so get a couple... it shoots straight .... and its all american.. at the end of the dy go look at them all then decide.
Tonybagn is offline  
Old April 17th, 2013, 06:37 AM   #13
 
pappekak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Wyoming
Posts: 284
pappekak is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lead Slanger View Post
Just thought I'd throw this out there....if you're really wanting a 6.5 Swede, CZ has a nice one in their 550 rifle.
I have considered CZ but the twist rate makes it unsuitable for anything over 140 grain bullets. ( I hunt with 156 gr Norma Oryx or 160 gr Hornady RN in 6.5 Swede but my old Carl Gustav is getting too heavy for me to lug around in my elder years.) Should have picked up a Tikka in 6.5 Swede when I had the chance a couple of years ago. Tikka dropped the 6.5x55 from what they offer.

Last edited by pappekak; April 17th, 2013 at 06:43 AM.
pappekak is offline  
Old April 17th, 2013, 03:43 PM   #14
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,194
shuckinthecorn will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkker View Post
This is from a multiple decade Savage builder/user, I went through the bankruptcy years with them.

The accu-stock is pure marketing BS. Savage has LONG had one of the flimsiest chunks of sewer-pipe for a stock; there is a very good reason savage users call them "Tupperware". The accu-stock brings that same stock construction the additional rigidity of very thin sheet metal, think Tec-9 sear thin. It is very poorly attached, and fit is not good. They have a common habit of rubbing on the gun, independent of the stock, then cracking the sheet metal.
Savage (post bankruptcy) began to get a good reputation for good barrels, AT THAT PRICE POINT. That has been translated today, as they are fabulous shooters; which many are. My favorite 1,000 yard gun is an FP I bought in 97. But I have no illusion about what it is, and what it isn't.
They are $400 dollar guns.
Stevens? Same gun, same production lines, same specs. Stevens doesn't get "cheaper" parts.

Now don't get me wrong, they are great for what they are. They are a good value, but they aren't world class construction.
I guess that explains why the Accustock isn't used on all models. I was under the impression, they had a heavy aluminum bedding block in them but have never seen one personally. My model 12 came with a H S Precision stock, and is consistantly, very accurate. I gave less for that rifle than a custom action can be bought for.
shuckinthecorn is offline  
Old April 17th, 2013, 04:42 PM   #15
 
kiwihunter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 4,519
kiwihunter is a jewel in the roughkiwihunter is a jewel in the roughkiwihunter is a jewel in the rough
I think theres a lot of misinformation around the Savage Accustock,i have owned several Savages and those fitted with the new Accustocks definitely had a more rigid feel to them and i believe enhanced accuracy....in other words "they do work",especially in climates where "warping" may be an issue.
Chuck Hawkes and Randy Wakeman have always been good for informed concise unbiased reports and range tests and below is what Randy Wakeman had to say re the Savage Accustocks.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/savage_accustock.htm




Last edited by kiwihunter; April 17th, 2013 at 04:44 PM.
kiwihunter is offline  
Reply

  Ruger Forum > Rifle & Shotgun Forum > Rifles



Search tags for this page
accustock
,

accustock for sale

,

accustock vs non accustock

,
can i buy an accustock
,
is savage accustock worth it
,
is the savage accustock worth it
,

savage accustock

,

savage accustock for sale

,
savage accustock review
,
savage accustock vs non accustock
,
savage arms accustock
,
savage arms accustock for sale
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Ruger Forum Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Savage 99,s Maltise Collectors 19 February 18th, 2012 05:31 PM
For Sale: Savage 10 in .243 Winchester tech859 Firearms 0 November 19th, 2011 01:42 PM
Savage 219 Brettov Rifles 5 July 4th, 2010 05:00 AM
77 mk II 250 savage huck finn Ruger Bolt Action 7 January 6th, 2010 11:33 AM

Top Gun Sites Top Sites List  
Powered by vBulletin 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
Copyright © 2006 - 2014 Ruger Forum. All rights reserved.
Ruger Forum is a Ruger Firearms enthusiast's forum, but it is in no way affiliated with, nor does it represent Sturm Ruger & Company Inc. of Southport, CT.