Mosin NagantsThis is a discussion on Mosin Nagants within the Rifles forums, part of the Rifle & Shotgun Forum category; Vasily Zaytsev used one for his first 34 kills. After that he was awarded a snipers rifle but I haven't been able to figure out ...  |
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October 11th, 2012, 12:39 AM
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#16 | | Conserviberalitarian
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Vasily Zaytsev used one for his first 34 kills. After that he was awarded a snipers rifle but I haven't been able to figure out what it was. He's credited as being the all-time sniper champ with over 400 kills.
I've heard nothing but good things about the Mosin-Nagant, especially for the price. They were the M1 Garand of the Soviet army during WWII.
Hickok 45's got at least one video on one.
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October 11th, 2012, 01:48 AM
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| I've got a Polish Nagant carbine in brand spanking new condition with the receiver dated 1953. It still fires the full house 7.62x54R and it has the folding bayonet. I got this carbine from a friend of mine that got a crate of them out of Poland weeks after their independence from the Soviet Union in the 80s. The rifles were still packed in the cosmoline and oil paper from when the were manufactured in 1953 and sealed in the box. I only ran 10 rounds through mine as it kicks like a mule, but it's accurate if you can stand the recoil.
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October 11th, 2012, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jlh820 He's credited as being the all-time sniper champ with over 400 kills. | Wrong.
That title goes to Simo Häyhä (The White Death) with 505 confirmed (542+ with unconfirmed added) sniper kills in less then 100 days at a time of year that they only had about 5 to 6 hours of light a day. He was also said to have killed 200+ with a K31 SMG in the same 100 day time frame for a total of over 700.
Take a look at the link I put in my last post. Quote:
Originally Posted by jlh820 Vasily Zaytsev used one for his first 34 kills. After that he was awarded a snipers rifle but I haven't been able to figure out what it was. | I believe It was also a Mosin Nagant just in sniper form instead of standard issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zajcev_rifle.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vasily.Zaitsev.jpg
Lyudmila Pavlichenko The best Female sniper was also said to have used a Mosin 91/30. http://www.vincelewis.net/sniper.html
A lot of good snipers have used Mosin Nagants.
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October 11th, 2012, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RAC55 The rifles were still packed in the cosmoline and oil paper from when the were manufactured in 1953 and sealed in the box. | Are you sure it was NEW? Just because it was in a sealed crate covered in cosmoline does not mean it is new by any means. That is how they packed them up after they where done using the rifiles to preserve them.
To this day they come in sealed crates with 10 rifles packed in cosmoline and they are far from new.
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October 11th, 2012, 04:55 AM
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Nagants are the best bang for your buck, heck everytime i go to the gun show here in Pasadena, Tx i'll pick one up for exactly $119 out the door price, i have quite a collection of them. cheap to shoot, very accurate, i cant believe its so cheap, with the exception of the obvious "Sticky bolt" problem. Thats my Third favorite bolt gun right after my #1 Sniper version K98mauser and the second Carcano 6.5mm.
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October 11th, 2012, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jlh820
Vasily Zaytsev used one for his first 34 kills. After that he was awarded a snipers rifle but I haven't been able to figure out what it was.
I believe It was also a Mosin Nagant just in sniper form instead of standard issue.
| Zaitsev used the 91/30 PE sniper version.
Most of the replica snipers on the market are the much more common PU variant.
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October 11th, 2012, 06:04 AM
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#22 | | Pizza Eata
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The Mosin Nagant is probably THE most reliable gun on planet earth. They are built like tanks and I've never heard of anything going wrong on them. I have had numerous Nagant's and all were very fun to have and the ammo is relatively cheap. In our 1917 war against the communists in Russia (very few people know about it, it's a rather interesting conflict), we had to use Mosin Nagant's I believe because our Springfields couldn't handle the bitter cold, I believe it had something to do with the firing pin. Even the Mauser 98's firing pins couldn't handle the cold, some Germans had to use Mosin Nagant's that they captured against the Russian's in WWII. It overall is an incredible battle rifle, and still sees some use by Al Qaeda and the Taliban in the M.E.
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October 11th, 2012, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Super blackhawk How good are Mosin Nagants? are they accurate and reliable? they're cheap as hell and i wanted to know how good they are.
Thanks in advance | The M44's are great. the action is smooth, solid, and simple. the rifle is accurate enough for its intended purpose. |
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October 11th, 2012, 06:51 AM
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#24 | | Conserviberalitarian
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Originally Posted by 351mustang65 | I stand corrected. Here's a snippet from Wikipedia Quote:
Simo Häyhä (Finnish pronunciation: [ˈsimɔ ˈhæy̯hæ]; December 17, 1905 – April 1, 2002), nicknamed "White Death" (Russian: Белая смерть, Belaya Smert; Finnish: valkoinen kuolema; Swedish: den vita döden) by the Red Army, was a Finnish sniper. Using a modified Mosin–Nagant in the Winter War, he has the highest recorded number of confirmed sniper kills – 505 – in any major war.[2] | However, I'm not so sure his Mosin-Nagant killed all the targets! I might have had staring contests with them.
Here's a picture of Mr. Hayha
Note: I'm not trying poke fun at Hayha, because he looks like this after being wounded in battle. However, you've got to admit, that's a face that could startle anyone! |
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October 11th, 2012, 08:02 AM
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I love mine!
Great rifle, great price. I'm a sucker for cheap military rifles.
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October 11th, 2012, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by jlh820 I stand corrected. Here's a snippet from Wikipedia
However, I'm not so sure his Mosin-Nagant killed all the targets! I might have had staring contests with them.
Here's a picture of Mr. Hayha
Note: I'm not trying poke fun at Hayha, because he looks like this after being wounded in battle. However, you've got to admit, that's a face that could startle anyone!  | I remember reading an article that said he used a open sight Mosin & a9mm sub machine gun. I think it was in Guns & Ammo
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October 11th, 2012, 03:13 PM
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Just got a case of Mosin Nagant ammo. |
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October 12th, 2012, 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 351mustang65 Are you sure it was NEW? Just because it was in a sealed crate covered in cosmoline does not mean it is new by any means. That is how they packed them up after they where done using the rifiles to preserve them.
To this day they come in sealed crates with 10 rifles packed in cosmoline and they are far from new. | These rifles were produced in the Polish Radom works from 1950 - 1963 and a vast majority of these carbines were packed in code 11 crates, 6 carbines to a crate, and never used or issued. They are amongst the highest quality M44 carbines produced. In most cases they rival or exceed the Finnish Mosins in quality. I included some thumbnail links to my carbine, and you'll see that the blueing is 100% and the turnings in the barrel and receiver is visible under the blue, so it has not been polished for a reblue. All stampings are factory crisp. I've been collecting C&R firearms for 40 years and I can tell the difference between a freshly manufactured rifle, and a good reblue. My 30 years of machining, toolmaking and metal finishing also helps.
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October 12th, 2012, 03:55 AM
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Wow very cool & definitely a nice looking Mosin!
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October 12th, 2012, 03:56 AM
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Th moisin nagant was effective in brutal Russian winters and killed millions of germans in 2 world wars.
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