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Old November 3rd, 2010, 04:57 PM   #1
 
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Angelo zoli 7X65R/12G combo drilling

Hey all i am looking at one of these angelo zoli o/u combos with 12g on top and 7x65r underneath, its in nice condition, the ammo 7x65r is a little hard to find although i have located some norma and some sellior and bellot,i think it might be a really fun woods carry 12g for buckshot /birdshot and all i have read on the 7x65r tells me its a great allround deer whatever cal, as i said factory ammo might be a little rare but not impossible to find, but all in it looks like a lot of fun....lovely balance and points really well....mmmm decisions .....any opinions gentlemen.



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Old November 3rd, 2010, 05:24 PM   #2
 
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If the price is right...snatch it. The 7x54r is a great cartridge still in use around the world. It is comparable to a .308 maybe closer to 30-06. Most if not all of the surplus ammo is full metal jacket which as you know is not intended for hunting.
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Im with The Rifleman if the price is right and you want it, grab it up sounds like a fun and fine firearm
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Buy it.
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Thanks for the input all, i really do like this combo concept ....seems to make alot of sense carry wise, Rifleman its a 7x65r not 7x54r dont know if that makes any difference to your info, according to a friend whos gunshop the rifle is at he can get norma and sellior and bellot hollow point and soft point respectively, hope the finances hold up this month and i might just own it.......fingers crossed.

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Rifleman its a 7x65r not 7x54r dont know if that makes any difference to your info.
Ooops, I must have looked at that cross-eyed. The 7x65r (Brenneke) was developed in 1917 by Wilhelm Brenneke. Balistically it is basically a .280 Rem with a rim and is still popular in Europe. If you reload and can't locate brass you can resize 9.3x74r.
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Ooops, I must have looked at that cross-eyed. The 7x65r (Brenneke) was developed in 1917 by Wilhelm Brenneke. Balistically it is basically a .280 Rem with a rim and is still popular in Europe. If you reload and can't locate brass you can resize 9.3x74r.
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hope the finances hold up this month and i might just own it.......fingers crossed.
Some things transcend all borders, "hope I can get enough money to buy my next gun".

If you decide to buy be sure to post a report on how well it shoots. It looks like it has a scope mount which will make it good for the rifle but real interesting for wing shooting with it. It's a fine looking firearm. Good luck.
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Some things transcend all borders, "hope I can get enough money to buy my next gun".

If you decide to buy be sure to post a report on how well it shoots. It looks like it has a scope mount which will make it good for the rifle but real interesting for wing shooting with it. It's a fine looking firearm. Good luck.
Thanks Terry_p ... yes if i get it i will let you all know what it can do, your right about the scope mount thing....the irons on it fold down for shotgun use and flip up for rifle....thing is i have three nice bird shotguns a miroku o/u, a victor saraqueta sxs and of course my mighty rem 870 so i would probably dedicate this to a deer rifle therefore oo buck would probably be mainly the top barrels diet( I think its a full choke), i might look at a red dot scope or a low pwr weaver or bushnell.cheers.
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Kiwi I'm changing the subject a little. It seems you changed your avatar. Which is nice by the way, but on your previous one if I recollect was a picture of a bolt gun(?) with a suppressor. If so how well do you like it? Do you have to go through red tape to get one? Here we have to jump through hoops and cross our eyes. Go figure.
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check Cheaper than Dirt or J & G Sales for that 7x65r ammo

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7x65R is a good caliber, comparable to the 270win, but offering heavier 7mm bullets.

Problem with this kind of OU-Gun is the fact that the POI goes up after the first shot. So developing loads is a pain, practicing at the range is a pain and fast follow ups are not possible.

This concept is for hunters in good old Germany who never shoot over 100yds and thus neither need any practice nor do they need an accurized (i.e. handloaded) gun. 10 MOA is acceptable for most German hunters, as they never hit the range (sighting in is done by gunsmiths) they even wouldn't notice such a poor accuracy. The deer at 75m drops and the difference between POA and POI is never considered and if so attributed to the wind.

For a serous shooter I would strongly discourage a buy.
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Kiwi I'm changing the subject a little. It seems you changed your avatar. Which is nice by the way, but on your previous one if I recollect was a picture of a bolt gun(?) with a suppressor. If so how well do you like it? Do you have to go through red tape to get one? Here we have to jump through hoops and cross our eyes. Go figure.
Hey there Rifleman the bolt gun with the young stag on my old avatar is a Howa 1500 carbine with a MAE overbarrel suppressor,it was a nice little rifle(accounted for quite a few deer with it) which i sold to finance a Savage weather warrior with accustock/accu trigger,both great rifles.but i kind of liked the accustock /trigger concepts.
Here in New Zealand there are no restrictions on suppresors and therefore theres quite an industry grown around there manufacture with at least a half dozen major players,the suppressor in the avatar was an MAE stainless steel overbarrel type....being stainless it was very resilient and very quiet but unfortunately quite heavy which had a bit of a negative affect on the rifles handling and pointability.I have also just sold a Remington 600 mohawk which i also had suppressed but from a different manufacturer Gunworks in Canterbury this suppressor was made from duralium which is a lot lighter material but i dont think quite as quiet as the MAE but definitely more user friendly as far as handling goes....Gunworks web site is probably worth a look as far as suppressor info is concerned the web is Gunworks Canterbury
have a look and let me know what you think.
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Kiwi I'm changing the subject a little. It seems you changed your avatar. Which is nice by the way, but on your previous one if I recollect was a picture of a bolt gun(?) with a suppressor. If so how well do you like it? Do you have to go through red tape to get one? Here we have to jump through hoops and cross our eyes. Go figure.
Hey there Rifleman, heres a pic of my Rem mohawk with a gun works duralium suppressor......i kind of regret selling it now.
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Very nice Kiwi. We should have never let the red tape happen over here. It would be nice to have one. It just makes since for hearing and accuracy, but just don't want to go through the paperwork and such. Did you notice if the accuracy improved with the use of a suppressor?

I checked the website. They seem nice. The over the barrel system is not as common over here.

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