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Old September 22nd, 2010, 06:15 PM   #1
 
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All purpose Caliber

Or something close to it.

So I have a ruger 10/22 that deals well with anything up to foxes, but now I'm getting into Coyotes...

I would like to work up to deer and other large game animals, so I would like to get a caliber that does it all. I'm not looking for a .223 or varmint gun. But I need something thats not too much to shoot but can be used for large game animals.

I'm looking at 30-06, 30-30 or .308. I haven't gotten into looking at certain models yet but I am thinking about the cal.

Any ideas or personal favorites?



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Old September 22nd, 2010, 06:50 PM   #2
 
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Ideas?

All of those calibers work well, 308 is probably the best all-purpose caliber of the bunch. Another thought would be to try some of the military surplus guns available inexpensively, one can get something like a mosin-nagant and four hundred plus rounds for about 200 dollars these days. That round is pretty similar to a 30-06, and if you don't care for it you can get most of your investment back out of it pretty easily.
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Your choices are good. I noticed you're from Canada so your encounter with bruins might be more likely than some of us just south of you. So my choice of those three would be the '06 although the other two calibers have taken their share of bear. What is your gun style preference? If you don't care for the lever action than the selection of 30-30 rapidly dwindled, but they can be found. The '06 and the .308 can be found in auto, single shot and bolt action so you have a greater selection for personal taste.
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well, 30-30 has been re-vived with the new Leverolusion(SP?) ammo. But over all, I'd go with the .308 as a good all around choice. The 30-06 is a little longer ranged but both are available with a large range of loads to suit your needs. It requires a LA (Long Action) in a bolt gun which maybe a little heavier.

I have a Browning BLR (lever gun) in 308 that works really well and a Remington 700 in 30-06 too. It's a personal choice at this point and whatever suits your style.
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i agree with reverendg the .308 is the best of those you listed, less recoil, good ballistic range, and hard hitting for bigger animals. The 30-06 is just more recoil than i want to deal with and you do not gain much , the 30-30 would be lacking in down range performance (for me out west in open country) i would consider .243 that will be my next caliber for multi purpose hunting i believe.
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I am a big fan of the 7mm-08, very flat trajectory, and hits good and hard.
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243. or 25-06 7mm-08 if ammo is available.
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I was already leaning towards .308, and they are common around here so there is lots of ammo to choose from.

About what is the range on one? What kind of scope would I need on it?

I'm looking at getting a savage arms one. From what i've heard they aren't much to look at but they preform well.
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If you want a bolt action and you want to take out critters as well as up to whitetail deer,a .243 or .25-06 is what I would get,the .243 is more affordable to shoot,but the .25-06 has a little more knockdown power,but both are great rounds for those purposes.If you are thinking of shooting things a little bigger,like elk or mule deer,than a .270 win is what I would get as a minimum, and it's very affordable to shoot.In a lever action I would get a 30-30,and a 30-30 is extremely affordable to shoot.
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I was already leaning towards .308, and they are common around here so there is lots of ammo to choose from.

About what is the range on one? What kind of scope would I need on it?

I'm looking at getting a savage arms one. From what i've heard they aren't much to look at but they preform well.
you kind of have to balance what you need in a scope between varmints and big game.You are going to want a good zoom for those little guys,like 24x so you can actually see them if they are far out,but at the same time you don't want a scope that is too powerful and won't go lower than 6x like some 24x scopes if you are going to hunt big game at close ranges.
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All purpose caliber

Or something close to it.

So I have a ruger 10/22 that deals well with anything up to foxes, but now I'm getting into Coyotes...

I would like to work up to deer and other large game animals, so I would like to get a caliber that does it all. I'm not looking for a .223 or varmint gun. But I need something thats not too much to shoot but can be used for large game animals.

I'm looking at 30-06, 30-30 or .308. I haven't gotten into looking at certain models yet but I am thinking about the cal.

Any ideas or personal favorites?
Those 3 are the same caliber anyways. Just different cartridges.

Out of those, I prefer the venerable ol' .30-30. It's done it and been there again and again. No need for the latest whiz-bang super ultra magnum extremo. Stick with the standards. Then again, I prefer something different so the .30-06 is out for me anyways. How bout something with class - the .300 H&H. 8)
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Go with a 7mm-08. Plenty of power for deer size game, won't beat you up, and fits into a nice light and handy short action.

My $.02
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I'd say .30-06. It's good for deer and the minimum I'd want if plodding around bear country. I'd feel more comfortable loading it with heavier bullets than with .308.

Sans bears, I'd probably pick .243. I think it's quite an elegant caliber if deer are what you want.
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For me the 30/06 can do just about anything from grouse to elephants. My Savage 110 has served me well since the mid 60s, and fed my family when the kids were young. Chopped and weighing approx 6 pounds it will still achieve minute of angle. With un-resized primed case one can drop 5 grains Red Dot followed by a wad and 100 grain plinker and have a virtual .22 rimfire. My 180 grainers sighted in at 225 yards would place the plinkers spot on at 25 yards with no sight change. I still have the 4 power Redfield and would not hesitate to use it for anything. An added bonus is that one gets very good with it when one has but one rifle. Wks fer mee.
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I am undergoing the same dilemma. 30-06 is probably the best all around, but the .308 has nearly the same stopping power in a shorter case. Then, there is the venerable 7mm-08 which is, in my humble opinion, a very underrated cartridge.

But, for your stated use, I think .308 or 30-06 would be about perfect.

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