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Old February 16th, 2017, 10:07 AM   #1
 
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Now I have my AR-15, next project whatcha think?

So my next project is definitely an AR-10, probably going to build it myself unless I find some insane deal.... But!!!! I am debating if it should be in the standard 7.62X51, or I should go elsewhere. I want to start hog hunting seriously after I return from Basic training and AIT, and I want a dedicated hog rifle. The .308 is a dandy choice but I'm not always a simple guy. I was thinking bigger. Like .338 Federal or .358 Winchester bigger. I want something with a lot of thump but still with solid medium range capability (under 300). This takes the .450 sized cartridges out of the question. What would be the difficulties, complications, or concerns with this idea? Let's consider the relatively heavy recoil from say a 225 grain .338 or .358, any foreseeable problems?

I could be simple and go .308, but I'm just wondering.



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Dunno man, the 338 will have more energy, seems to preform a little better than 30-06 and about the same recoil too and you get 30gr more potential energy in the bullet. When you compare it to 308 though, which has about 8 Lbs less recoil energy but with nearly the same muzzle velocity, ya gotta ask yourself how much more you are getting with the 338.

If ya wanna do something fancy on the AR10 receiver, hmm, 6.5cm or .243 may be better alternatives. The key for hogs is bullet construction so a smaller diameter should not be a problem. Hogs are being taken regularly, and effectively, with .223 using 75 and 77 gr hollow point. I've been researching hog hunting and the consensus seems to be hydro static shock over diameter. One guy was hunting with 12GA slugs that seemed to fly right through the pigs without dong much damage.

I think building a 338 AR10 would be cool but 308, 6.5 and .243 would be more cost effective and more enjoyable for a day at the range with double duty as a hog smasher.

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I think a 308 makes a lot of sense.
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You have to load them and I am not sure of availability anymore but the old Remington Bronze Points were a serious shock ammunition.

I never had one pentrate through and the amount of damage was amazing. I used to use in .270 and 30-06. Hog would just go flat like you hit them in the head with a sledge hammer.
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So my next project is definitely an AR-10, probably going to build it myself unless I find some insane deal.... But!!!! I am debating if it should be in the standard 7.62X51, or I should go elsewhere. I want to start hog hunting seriously after I return from Basic training and AIT, and I want a dedicated hog rifle. The .308 is a dandy choice but I'm not always a simple guy. I was thinking bigger. Like .338 Federal or .358 Winchester bigger. I want something with a lot of thump but still with solid medium range capability (under 300). This takes the .450 sized cartridges out of the question. What would be the difficulties, complications, or concerns with this idea? Let's consider the relatively heavy recoil from say a 225 grain .338 or .358, any foreseeable problems?

I could be simple and go .308, but I'm just wondering.
Ah, got bitten by the bug I see. Well only one platform do I recommend for the 7.62 platform, thats the dpms lr308, or compatible like the fulton armory titan. My reason they have more parts available for them than the others. I have built (3) 308's from the dpms. I have a 243 win built from the fulton armory titan, and currently building a 338 federal on the fulton armory titan. I would suggest the 308, its plenty powerful for just about anything. The 338 federal has its benefits if you handload, is capable of 7mm rem mag punch out to 400 yards, with the recoil of the 30.06, 23ft lbs. However the 338 federal benefits are that its made from 308 brass sized up. The factory offerings for ammo are expensive. But its powerful just not a distance cartridge.

The 243 is a good round in the LR plarform, 60 grain to 107 grain bullets. I recommend a 1n8 twist.
I have read alot of good things about the 6.5 creed, and very close comparison is the 260 rem. I have built a precision 26" krieger in 6.5 creed on a titan lower. Its accurate. The downfall is the price of ammo, brass. Its a long range round, capable of 1000 yards. 308 is cheaper and also 1000 yard capable.

The lr308 platform can also be chambered in 7mm-08, which is a 308 necked down to .284 bullets. Its a great hunter. The 358win is a good cartridge for short range, but the 338 federal matches it, and has less recoil for the same kinetic energy, with less drop.

If I had to choose one it would be the 308, ammo is plentiful, and cost productive. As always if you need information, just ask. The LR308 plarform and ar15 is my specialty, as you already know.
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Well it seems like you guys have talked me out of going bigger than .308.... But today I bought an 1891 Mauser that I ahd not planned on... Sporterized with a trigger job and Fajen stock. So I guess that's my next "project." But in all reality I'm hunting for a scout rifle and an AR... So I'm thinking Scout rifle .308 and AR-10 .308. BOTH just because I wanna lol.
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Well it seems like you guys have talked me out of going bigger than .308.... But today I bought an 1891 Mauser that I ahd not planned on... Sporterized with a trigger job and Fajen stock. So I guess that's my next "project." But in all reality I'm hunting for a scout rifle and an AR... So I'm thinking Scout rifle .308 and AR-10 .308. BOTH just because I wanna lol.
I also have a gewehr 98 mauser in 8x57, its the father to the well known k98 mauser. Fun to shoot, but can be brutal on you shoulder. I think 308 will do everything you want to do in the large frame ar platform.
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get a 450 Marlin upper you want some knockdown....and a 308 upper....and a 338 federal....and a 243....and a 7mm-08....and a 358 win.....and a 25 wssm and .....and....you know you can have them all.....lol
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What Tacky is referring to is that 308 style ARs are not all the same like standard AR15s. The DPMS LR308 is more standard and has more parts compatibility than the Armalite AR10. These two are not the same and a lot of parts will not interchange.
Before starting a build a lot of research should be done.

I myself went the legitimate AR10 route with most of my parts coming directly from Armalite.
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Okay guys I did not know that the parts weren't interchangeable, that's definitely something to consider. I will stick to the .308 for now and plan on making it a hunting rifle. Might consider a Stag Arms even?
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