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Old January 8th, 2017, 08:29 PM   #31
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To me a 300 Blackout is a useless round, but they are really popular......so what do I know?

I second that, but what do I know either.



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Op, are you really looking for a semi-auto hunting rifle that can be a battle rifle? Or are you looking for a modern sporting rifle, you may take hunting?

Have you been to your local gun shop and picked up and felt a Springfield M1A Scout? They are one of my favorites, but I was thinking of your budget and started remembering how much more the excellent steel mags are for it and it can be more expensive to scope.

While I believe the DPMS GII to be the current best AR 10 style variant, the Smith M&P AR in 308 is very impressive for the money and also runs Magpul magazines.

If you are a reloader the 6.5 Grendel is probably the best overall AR15 platform compatible cartridge at the moment. I hope that the Sharps gets off the ground, but I've watched other promising cartridges fade, like the 30AR.

The 300 Blk may make sense if you are going to get a supressor sometime, but otherwise it is really expensive 7.62x39 and underperforms the Russian round oftentimes.
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Thyanks for the info guys... I am looking into a few rifles. In the 5.56 department I like the Ruger 556, but I really want a .308 or 6.5 equivalent. So i am looking into building my own as well. I may consider waiting for bonus time at work in May and get something more expensive. It depends what I find and what I want to do.
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Try looking at the stuff Olympic arms has and what they can put together for you. I had two of their match rifles in 223 and could change to another cal just by putting on a new upper which takes about 45 sec.
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Try looking at the stuff Olympic arms has and what they can put together for you. I had two of their match rifles in 223 and could change to another cal just by putting on a new upper which takes about 45 sec.
Will do, thank you.
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I hate the term "assault rifle" glued to the AR15. It's not an assault rifle unless it full auto IMO then your talking M16
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I will be giving Olympic Arms a call about their Gamestalker in 7.62 and K4B in 6.8 Spc.... Thank you very much for the tip!
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To answer an earlier question... I am looking for a sporting rifle that doubles as a battle rifle. This is Hogs/Deer/Coyotes/ rifle that I would like to even use for Bear or larger game. Hence the focus I have now given the .308 now. The more I think about it the more I think the .308 is the best option.

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To answer an earlier question... I am looking for a sporting rifle that doubles as a battle rifle. This is Hogs/Deer/Coyotes/ rifle that I would like to even use for Bear or larger game. Hence the focus I have now given the .308 now. The more I think about it the more I think the .308 is the best option.
The 308 will not disappoint, as a battle rifle, or hunting rifle, can be handloaded with 110 grain bullets to over 200 grains for other purposes. It will work on 2 and 4 legged critters very effectively. If I could only have 1 stoner rifle, it would be a 308win, or 7.62x51.
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I'm going to do it to,i'm going to buy me a AR-15 5.56 this year for sure.
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Or you could move up to the $1400-1700 range and buy an FN-FAL from DS Arms?
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The FAL is an amazing hard use battle rifle, but I don't like it for sporting purposes as much.

A word of warning OP, while building an AR 15 is like playing legos, building a 308 is much harder because there are different specs and non standard receivers because they vary from manufacturer and some are completely proprietary. Some parts interchange some don't. If you build try to remain within one brand unless you know what you can mate and have a functional firearm.

Look on the used market, you will find some good deals, but make sure you know what you are purchasing.

Look at the Gen 2 again . Some are only 7.25 pounds in a 308.

http://dpms-gii.com/assets/img/conte...ro-main@2x.png

And I love the Hunter version.

http://dpms-gii.com/assets/img/conte...-hunter@2x.png


GII HUNTER
DEADLY ACCURATE.
THE TRUE HUNTER.
DPMS GII Hunter

DESCRIPTION

The 20” GII .308 Hunter is exactly that, a hunter! This gun is deadly accurate, loaded with features and benefits, but light enough to carry all day in the woods, plains, snow or desert. 20” target crown lightweight stainless steel barrel, enhanced carbon fiber free float tube, hogue grip, and MagPulŪ MOE RIfle stock.

RFLR-G2308L
$1699

SPECIFICATIONS
CALIBER: 308 / 7.62 Nato
LENGTH: 39”
WEIGHT: 7.76lbs
BARREL: 20" 416 Stainless, Teflon coated
UPPER RECEIVER: Forged 7075 T6 lvl 3 Anodized, Teflon coated, A3 type
LOWER RECEIVER: Forged 7075 T6 lvl Anodized, Teflon coated
TWIST: 1x10
STOCK: MagPulŪ MOE Rifle Stock
FIRE CONTROL: DPMS 2 Stage
PISTOL GRIP: Hogue
FRONT / REAR SIGHT: NA
FLASH HIDER: None - Target Crown
HANDGUARD: DPMS Carbon Fiber Free Float Tube

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If I were to build a .308 I'd go PSA upper/lower
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If I was building, I would go DPMS, most other clones are made after the dpms pattern. Fulton armory also makes the titan series thats dpms compatible, and the bushmaster xm10 is basically a dpms rifle, with bushmaster engravings.

Its 180 degrees from the ar15, its cheaper to buy a oracle 308, then change it to what you like than to buy the parts seperate and assemble one. The upper and lower stripped and bolt carrier cost more individually than a completed lr308 oracle. Where as its cheaper to buy the components to build an ar15, in most cases than to buy an assembled one of the same setup.
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Just to give you an idea, this started as a basic dpms oracle lr308,



This also started as an oracle, now a 20" used for hunting also 308.



This is a fulton armory titan I built into a 243 winchester, also compatible with the gen 1 lr308 dpms. The second upper pictured was built with an oracle 7.62x51 nato barrel 16" with a 15" free float rail.


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