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Old December 25th, 2016, 12:30 PM   #1
 
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Best long arm for being prepared that isn't an AR

Looking for some kind of long arm that isn't an AR to keep in house for a kind of preparedness/defensive plan. With the civil unrest going on the world, and the current political climate, I'm not sure I'd feel comfortable with just a handgun for defensive purposes.

I was looking at an AR, but I can't bring myself to buy one. I just don't care for the platform, or the attention it brings. I want a firearm has a low chance of being banned or restricted, the AR is at the top of the list in terms of being targeted, banned or restricted.

I was looking at a shotgun, but I don't really care for the limited capacity even hindered further by slow reloads that unless you have a semi auto, which limits capacity even further, you have to stop shooting to reload, the bulkiness of the ammo, and for the fact that all of the indoor ranges near me do not allow shotguns. The nearest outdoor range is an hour and many miles away. I do realize that to become proficient with any firearm, you have to practice, a lot, and driving an hour to an outdoor range only open on weekends means I'm not able to practice enough.

I need something that is semi auto, fires a capable, easy to find round, has a respectable capacity with the ability for quick reloads, and can be shot at any normal indoor range.

I am thinking a pistol caliber carbine, or a Ruger 10/22 (not sure if a 22 would really do the job, but with semi auto and a 25 round mag, I could see it working generally well), I'm lost, does anyone have any insight?

Thanks in advance,
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Old December 25th, 2016, 12:36 PM   #2
 
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308 bolt action, preferably 'all weather' stainless and polymer..
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Lever action rifle chambered for .357 magnum or 44 magnum. As fast shooting as a semi-auto, relatively "high capacity", and innocent looking.
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Given your criteria, a pistol caliber carbine is your best bet. From your screen name, I gather you own at least one .357 Mag revolver. Get a lever action .357. If you own a semi-auto try going for a "perfect pair": a handgun and pistol caliber carbine that are chambered the same + use the same mags.

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I was looking at an AR, but I can't bring myself to buy one. I just don't care for the platform, or the attention it brings. I want a firearm has a low chance of being banned or restricted, the AR is at the top of the list in terms of being targeted, banned or restricted.
A piece of advice from the State immediately South of you. A pistol caliber carbine is a poor substitute for a rifle caliber carbine. Don't let fear of something that has not happened restrict what you want today.

If you don't care for the AR-15, just like me, you have plenty of other choices. A Ruger Mini-14 or a Springfield M1-A with wood stocks don't look like an evil black rifle and get the job done. Sig MCX, FN SCAR 16 or SCAR 17 Heavy, Beretta ARX, Styer Aug, Kel-Tec RDB. Lots to choose from.
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Another thing you must consider for a home defense gun is wall penetration, ie: passing thru your walls and you neighbors walls. You really don't need a lot of rounds to deter a home invasion. I personally use a 45acp auto pistol that holds 10 rounds and fires frangible bullets that do not penetrate wall readily. If a crowd threatens your home or neighborhood then you will need a auto rifle with several 30 round magazines, But, you will probably not survive such an attack!
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How about a nice M-1 carbine AND a matching 30 carbine Blackhawk?
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You'd be surprised how fast you can scatter a crowd of wood be robbers with a 12 gauge 8 shot pump riot shotgun and reloading can be quicker than you think with the feed gate on the bottom. Get a couple belts that hold 24+ shotgun shells.
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Lever action rifle chambered for .357 magnum or 44 magnum. As fast shooting as a semi-auto, relatively "high capacity", and innocent looking.
That's what I was thinkin too, or even a 30-30.
Easy to reload however many rounds you just fired while ducking for cover, or even while moving, as long as it's a receiver loading brand.
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For the next 4 years I don't think we'll see a Federal ban, and WI seems like an unlikely place for a state ban. If you prefer a more traditional look, you might try a Mini-14, or if you want a larger caliber, perhaps an M1A. For a shotgun you might consider a Saiga.
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Marlin .30-30 with a quick detach scope mount, slip on shell holder, sling. It's a classic, non threatening design what is rugged enough to be used as a club if need be and shells can be had almost anywhere. Maybe even in homes that have been vacated in the event of catastrophe. If you're married, try and get your spouse on board and at least get them familiar the operation of the gun. Kids can be taught too, depending on maturity level.

Just my .02 cents.
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M1A Scout, forward optics, 7.62 x 51.
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SKS or Mossberg 500 with extended tube. I know you weren't crazy about the idea of a shotgun but with an extended tube on a defensive shotgun you could do much worse.
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I keep a model 94 in 30-30, a Henry in 357 mag.for self defense and a 12 ga 870 pump to compliment my hand guns, unless it was an ambush it would take a determined and skilled person to breech my walls with those in my hands and live through it.
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I own a Remington 7600 in 30-06 with 10 round magazines. I can fire 10 rounds of 30-06 from my pump within .3 seconds of the time my son in law can fire his m1a in 308. A pum is not likely to be on any ban list.
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I need something that is semi auto, fires a capable, easy to find round, has a respectable capacity with the ability for quick reloads, and can be shot at any normal indoor range.
There are a few 9mm/40S&W carbines available. Beretta has a rather compact model.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...azine+9mm+15RD

I used to own a Ruger PC40 that wasn't bad. You can't get much simpler than a blowback operated pistol caliber carbine. This would certainly fit your requirement to shoot on a indoor range.

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