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Old December 26th, 2016, 04:37 PM   #31
 
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I don't buy in to the whole SHTF stuff either. I don't care how good a shot you are, unless armed with something similar to a mini-gun with an endless belt, you will not hold off a large mob for any length of time. One guy taking out entire squads of men with a knife and a shoestring just happens in the movies. Be just as well off to get very proficient with your handgun and buy a lot of extra magazines.



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You want a semi-auto that shoots easily found, cheap ammo, that is effective, and a long arm that indoor ranges don't fear...? I have a Just Right Carbine in 9mm. It takes Glock pistol magazines, and there are factory 33 round mags available. Its a great rifle, easy to operate, and isn't so overpowering that it will blow walls and ear drums if you have to use it. Its ambidextrous as far as ejection, and the charging handle, and its a takedown rifle that can be easily stored in a small case. Nothing is hearing safe when fired indoors without a suppressor, or hearing protection, but a 9mm carbine isn't nearly as bad as an AR. 9mm ammo is the cheapest centerfire ammo available, and the most popular centerfire handgun ammo world wide. I bought my JR Carbine from Buds for $589. I posted my comments about its first range trip HERE

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You'd be surprised how fast you can scatter a crowd of wood be robbers with a 12 gauge 8 shot pump riot shotgun and reloading can be quicker than you think with the feed gate on the bottom. Get a couple belts that hold 24+ shotgun shells.
If you want low profile, easy to get ammo, and extremely effective home defense tool, thats it.
Im not so sure by the criteria you gave, that weapon has been built yet.


You shouldnt worry about reloads and heavy ammo. If you cant take care of the problem in 8 shots of 00 buckshot, your not defending yourself, your in a full blown firefight.

I keep a Remington 870 pump leaning in the corner with a mounted light, full of 00 buck. I have many firearms of all types, but the 12 gauge is the first thing I grab if going outside at night to investigate. It will stop a Grizzly bear in its tracks. Its very unlikely a pistol or rifle will do that without a lucky shot, or multiple well placed shots.. The 12 gauge, just point it in that direction, they got problems. Big time.

A 12 gauge riot gun full of buckshot is a helluva effective and intimidating tool.

I like the suggestion of the JR Carbine that weblance said, I have one, and love it. Its an awesome 9mm carbine, and they also build it in 45 acp. I would easily choose the JRC over an AR15. . But you said you dont want a evil black rifle.

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...If pistol caliber carbines are what you're looking for then a Henry 357 in steel would be pretty hard to beat.
Where the Henry falls short (to some people), compared to the pistol caliber Marlins, Winchesters, and Rossis is in their loading method. A side loading gate on the receiver makes topping off the magazine in the field very easy and does not take the gun 'out of action' but for a couple seconds.
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thanks all for the replies. I will have to sift through them all to see what you guys all said about gun choices.
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I've decided to just go with a Glock 17 with the 17 round mags, along with some 33 round mags for backup. I think a long arm is just too unweildy for the type of fighting i'll ever see, which will be close quarters fighting. Will mainly be used as a home defense gun, but should something major happen, like another police shooting where the cop is justified and the whole nation riots again and brings that crap to the suburbs, I want something with some capacity to give me any edge. I think 17 round mags should be good enough, maybe a couple extra Glock 17's to hand off to the gf and family to help as backup should the crap really hit the fan and they bring those protests here. Scary world we live in
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I think your Glock 17 is a good choice, although I prefer something with a stock. Since you took away my first choice, I'll have to say M1 carbine- light, handy, and a not-too-shabby round.
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I've decided to just go with a Glock 17 with the 17 round mags, along with some 33 round mags for backup. I think a long arm is just too unweildy for the type of fighting i'll ever see, which will be close quarters fighting. Will mainly be used as a home defense gun, but should something major happen, like another police shooting where the cop is justified and the whole nation riots again and brings that crap to the suburbs, I want something with some capacity to give me any edge. I think 17 round mags should be good enough, maybe a couple extra Glock 17's to hand off to the gf and family to help as backup should the crap really hit the fan and they bring those protests here. Scary world we live in
Hopefully, magazine capacity restrictions never hit your state.

Even at short ranges, most people shoot a carbine more accurately than any handgun. My opinion: if you honestly want to 'prep' for civil unrest, firearms-wise, two handguns, one carbine, and a short barrel 12 ga pump shotgun should be in your inventory. You should consider investing in a Level III vest and ballistic helmet, too.
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Most people choose a handgun for home defense. I do. The merits of a handgun vs. a rifle can be debated, but a handgun is still a good choice.

You keep bringing up civil unrest, and the possible of a situation Without Rule of Law. I don't think that would even happen, but... IF it does, a handgun wouldn't be my choice. It would be a rifle. Since I have an AR, that would be my choice. Where a PCC like the JRCarbine shines is with its commonality to your choice of a Glock pistol. Same magazine, same ammo. Easier to get hits on target with, easier to shoot accurately at longer ranges.

Everyone should have a handgun, for that "Just in Case" situation. IF you really want to be prepared for anything, a carbine is a great addition for your protection.
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