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Old January 23rd, 2017, 06:10 PM   #46
 
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I got tired of looking for PC or Camp 9. I bought a Gen 2 Kel-tec Sub 2000. Takes the same mags as my Glock 19. The carbine has been completely reliable and accurate. I thought I would just like it but now I love it. Everyone that shoots it wants to buy one. I'm still keeping my eye out for Ruger but I won't be selling the Kel-tec.

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Old January 23rd, 2017, 07:48 PM   #47
 
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I got tired of looking for PC or Camp 9. I bought a Gen 2 Kel-tec Sub 2000. Takes the same mags as my Glock 19. The carbine has been completely reliable and accurate. I thought I would just like it but now I love it. Everyone that shoots it wants to buy one. I'm still keeping my eye out for Ruger but I won't be seeming the Kel-tec.

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In the same boat. I wanted a PC9 but wasn't willing to drop $900 on a fairly worn one. Bought a KT sub 2k gen 2 and I like it a lot. I'm still looking for another 9mm PCC - something more conventional - this is still my #1 wishlist item.

The OP is looking for something more than 9mm. Choices are fairly slim.
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TNW Firearm the Aero Survival Rifle (and an Aero Survival Pistol) in 357 Sig, 40 S&W, 45ACP, 9mm and 10mm (which is the one I have). No 357 mag though. There are caliber conversion kits that interchange with the serialized upper receiver. They are a bit pricy but much better quality than a lot of the other PCCs out there. They use Glock mags.
TNW also makes some cool other toys that are unfortunatly out of my budget, like a semi-auto MG34 and a semi-auto Browning M2HB.
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In the same boat. I wanted a PC9 but wasn't willing to drop $900 on a fairly worn one. Bought a KT sub 2k gen 2 and I like it a lot. I'm still looking for another 9mm PCC - something more conventional - this is still my #1 wishlist item.

The OP is looking for something more than 9mm. Choices are fairly slim.
True. I forgot to mention the Sub is available in 40 as well.

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Rossi 92. Affordable, reliable, tough, accurate, fast handling as a pistol caliber carbine should be. I highly recommend.
+1 on the Rossi. Picked one up a while back and really enjoy shooting it. Looks great in stainless too.
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TNW Firearm the Aero Survival Rifle (and an Aero Survival Pistol) in 357 Sig, 40 S&W, 45ACP, 9mm and 10mm (which is the one I have). No 357 mag though. There are caliber conversion kits that interchange with the serialized upper receiver. They are a bit pricy but much better quality than a lot of the other PCCs out there. They use Glock mags.
TNW also makes some cool other toys that are unfortunatly out of my budget, like a semi-auto MG34 and a semi-auto Browning M2HB.
I own one of these in 45 ACP. Only problem I personally had was with the magazine that came with it which is an aftermarket hi-cap mag. Cant remember the brand name right now. I replaced the butt stock and grip, not because they were necessarily "bad" but because I had a standard A2 grip lying around and Im a fan of the magpul MOE stock. I put a bushnell 1-4 32mm circle x scope. Super fun at the range and looks good too. Ill most likely try out a different brand hi-cap mag later. I bought a Glock branded 13 rounder to verify the mag was in fact the problem. Absolutely zero issues after about 150 or so rounds through it with glock mag. Compare with every 2nd or 3rd round misfeed with original mag.
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Good thread I just signed up and was looking for some load date for a 77/44 I just set up. Always get a carbine to go with the revolvers just because its fun and cheap. Rossi 94 in .357 and a Henry big boy in .44 and a CX4 storm in 9mm.
The Henry .44 is nice but the Rossi .357 out shoots it, got the .357 in one hole at 100 yards. Should have the 77/44 out for the first time Tuesday if this weather holds.
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I've looked at PCC's for several years and always kept coming back to wanting the Sub 2000. I have one on its way to me this week, 9mm Glock, which works with my recently purchased Glock 19.

The Hi Point was the other real contender in my book, but even with that interesting bull pup kit coming that will likely solve many complaints, it still suffers from the mag limit issues. And by the time you buy that kit and a Hi Point carbine, you are in a price bracket at or above the Kel Tec even with its never ending availability premium price.

There are other carbines out there, but I just can't see spending more than $600 on a pistol caliber rifle.

I keep telling Ruger to make a PCC. If they do one that works with my American 45 I'd probably be very interested (as long as it isn't an AR clone).
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Bullit..Hi-point makes an .9mm, .40, and 45 caliber semi-auto carbine. Their inexpensive ($250-300), come with rails, and they work!!!! I have the .9mm 955TS and I have no complaints. Straight blow back design and ultra reliable. May not be what your looking for, but they are a blast to shoot.


I just got one of these as well. It's a blast to shoot!


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I've looked at PCC's for several years and always kept coming back to wanting the Sub 2000. I have one on its way to me this week, 9mm Glock, which works with my recently purchased Glock 19.
Did the same thing a little more than a year ago. I've shot my sub 2k gen2 a few times at the range and finally got to shoot it over the weekend at a friend's farm. It was a hoot. I have 4 Glock 33 round magazines for it and my 17. It performed really well - no failures of any type. I will say this however, it's really hard to get your cheek down on it enough to get a good sight picture through the factory sights. It really would be better with a red dot or other optic but most of those defeat the one really cool feature of the Sub2k and that's its fold-ability.

I'm still searching for a great 9mm carbine. The Sub2k is okay and fun but is far from great IMHO. Even with that said, it's really not a great gun by any measure but a very good gun in so many ways and to repeat myself, it's fun!
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I was out on google the other day trying to find all the long gun .357 i could. I stumbled upon the pump action type from Taurus and Wolf (maybe?) I bet those would be fun! But it seems the are out of production...
Then shortly after that search I found myself on Henry Repeating Arms website looking at the Big Boy steel 16.5 lever. I put two and two together and wrote an email to Henry to see if they had any plans to put together a 357 magnum pump action carbine rifle. They responded back that it was on their short list of guns for product development. I guess i wasn't the first to think of it. They also agreed with me thinking it would be a real cool shooter. I also think a 16.5 length would be a real good contender for a home defense weapon.
I would suggest writing Henry if you think a 357 mag pump would be something they should produce. I hope you do because i want one.


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Did the same thing a little more than a year ago. I've shot my sub 2k gen2 a few times at the range and finally got to shoot it over the weekend at a friend's farm. It was a hoot. I have 4 Glock 33 round magazines for it and my 17. It performed really well - no failures of any type. I will say this however, it's really hard to get your cheek down on it enough to get a good sight picture through the factory sights. It really would be better with a red dot or other optic but most of those defeat the one really cool feature of the Sub2k and that's its fold-ability.

I'm still searching for a great 9mm carbine. The Sub2k is okay and fun but is far from great IMHO. Even with that said, it's really not a great gun by any measure but a very good gun in so many ways and to repeat myself, it's fun!
I've heard about the cheek thing but there apparently a company that makes a cover to put on the tube that helps. Plus I've read there are a couple of options that allow you to move the optic out of the way to fold it up but I'm not sure what those run.

I'm going to shoot mine a bit and see what I think before buying any accessories like that though.
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I've heard about the cheek thing but there apparently a company that makes a cover to put on the tube that helps. Plus I've read there are a couple of options that allow you to move the optic out of the way to fold it up but I'm not sure what those run.

I'm going to shoot mine a bit and see what I think before buying any accessories like that though.
Tandemkross makes the Gator Skin tube cover. Makes it much nicer to cheek. I'm doing ok with stock sights but I think I'm going to mount a dot with a quick release.

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My next lever gun will be a Henry in 327 mag. Supposed to be released in March of this year.
Mine is on order as I type.
Really looking forward to a .327mag lever.
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I know the OP wants a semi-auto carbine in caliber's like 9mm,40 S&W, .45acp etc. But personally I would buy a nice Rossi Lever Action Carbine with a 16 inch barrel .357/.38, .44magnum/44 Spec. or .45LC. My avatar pic showing a Rossi Model 92 Big Loop carbine in .357/.38 Special. Very smooth working action & actually very accurate!!! Plus these caliber's mention are very powerful.
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