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Old November 13th, 2016, 04:37 PM   #16
 
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That link doesn't show that gun chambered in .357 mag. I don't think .357 mag can work in a semi-auto rifle.
I know but I want it to be.



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Old November 13th, 2016, 04:45 PM   #17
 
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Thank you thank you all for responding. Its taken me days to look for the non-existent caliber I want in bullpup design that can go through studs in walls and still have the knock down power I want. Friends have said the .40 is as best as its' going to get but I am a hold out.
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Isn't part of the problem getting rimmed cartridges to feed from a magazine, ergo the rotary 22 magazine. If you go with .40, I have a KelTec sub 2000 set up with Glock 22 magazines. Lots will denegrate the KelTec but mine runs all day long...and it folds in half...CT laser under the muzzle and she still folds up to about 16".


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PC4

Dont forget, Ruger made a PCC in 9mm and 40 I have the 40 version, it is called a PC4. 20 round mags are available and it is very accurate.
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I also have one of those semi-auto "Blackhawk .30" carbines.....best way to go!


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I had a .30 cal carbine with a folding stock and banana mags when I was a kid. You could buy cases of lose military surplus ammo all day long. Dang! Why did I sell it. LOL
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. . . You could buy cases of lose military surplus ammo all day long. Dang! . . . LOL
You could buy sealed "cans" of Carbine bandoleers with ammo in stripper clips back in the day when I got my carbines (early 1960s). My wife gave me the Blackhawk in 1969 since I had so many empty cases to reload for the revolver.
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Marlin 357 lever action is great.
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I like the 40 and 45 caliber carbines

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Thank you thank you all for responding. Its taken me days to look for the non-existent caliber I want in bullpup design that can go through studs in walls and still have the knock down power I want. Friends have said the .40 is as best as its' going to get but I am a hold out.
I like the 40 caliber and 45 cailber carbines for home defense....but a 9mm +P going out of a 16 inch barrell produces some wicked velocities! I have a Ruger PC4 (photo attached)
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Just love my Ruger .44Mag Auto Carbine and any of my .44Mag revolvers, either my Ruger Super BH, or my S&W Model 29, definitely worth the money if you can find them. Normally the Ruger .44Mag Auto Carbine if you can find one will generally go anywhere from $600-$750. .
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Well, I will jump in with a few thoughts. I like the idea of a semi 357 carbine, but i would think it would not work with both, reason being if the action is setup for 357, it may not have enough energy to operate the bolt with a 38. Kinda like putting 22 short in a 10/22 long rifle, it will shoot but you have to manually load and eject it everytime. If it was light enough for the 38 setting, then a 357 would beat the rifle and action up. Probably the 30 caliber m1 carbine is as close to the 357 as it gets.

So as far as pistol carbines the best choice economically would be a pc4 or pc 9 ruger. They are decently priced and use p series magazines. I personally own a rock river lar 9 in 9mm, its very fun, uses the colt smg mag with 32 round capacity. Its in the same price range as the pc carbines. Its a blowback gun, and very fun. I also own an mp5a2 in 9mm, and did own a mp5/40 in 40sw. They are extremely fun, however they are expensive two or 3 times the cost maybe even four or five in some cases. As others here I have a 30 carbine m1, and 30 carbine blackhawk both great firearms. A friend has the highpoint 9mm, and I must say even though its hideous, its a fun rifle to shoot, and never an issue with it.

Think about this, the power and desired kinetic energy is in the bullet type, weight, and velocity. These can be increased or decreased by handloaders to some extent. There is also alot of factory ammo out there to choose your desired results. After all the 9mm and 38 spcl are pretty much equal in power looking at the ballistic data. Basically a 9mm pistol is a high capacity 38 special, not limited by a cylinder. So do not count out a 9mm, it penetrates well try a fmj.
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I'll chime in with my 2 cents - I have a wonderful old 3 screw BH in 30 Carbine and a newer M1 carbine (reproduction) and love the pairing. Both are a lot fun. My latest project was an AR9 - very handy carbine and again a lot of fun. 9MM bulk is pretty cheap so it's easier on the wallet versus other centerfire ammo. Mine uses Glock mags and you have the option of either compact low capacity mags or the long 33-rounders. The 9MM seems to be enjoying a resurgence in popularity as a defensive round as the FBI is switching back to 9MM, the front runners in the Army's new duty sidearm are 9MM and the Marine Raiders are dropping the Colt M45A1 in favor of G19s. There must be something to the 9MM, or more specifically some of the new defensive ammo developed in 9MM. I've never been big on the 9MM but I do like my LC9s and this handy little carbine so I guess I have another pairing now.

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Hmmm....not sure if you will find an auto loader in 38/357. I highly recommend trying an nice lever gun to go along with that Blackhawk. You can really churn out rounds out of those lever guns if you get good. They are a blast to shoot. My kids automatically go to the Lever guns on range trips. Give one a try!

Gotta agree here. I've tried to get rifles that'll take my pistol calibers too. .22lr no problem. 9mm, picked up a used Ruger PC9. For the .357/38sp, I ended up getting a Rossi lever action, stainless steel with the 18 inch barrel.

Lever guns can be a lot of fun and with practice, you can indeed churn out rounds pretty rapidly.
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I have a Henry Big Boy steel in 357 to match my 50th Anniversary Blackhawk, a Rossi 92 to go with my 45 Combo Blackhawk 45 Colt and a Browning 92 in 44 mag to with my Super Blackhawk. Have a Henry Small Game in 22 RF to go with my old Single Six and Bearcat. Am missing a lever rifle to go with my Single Six 32 H&R Mag. May be someday.
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My 9mm rock river I customized as waveform stated I love mine also. Here is also my customized uzi carbine, also a really fun carbine, and cheap to shoot all day.




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